@Windawz
I thought you had a GTX 750. Also, look at me, how can I manage to make videos, with my terrible laptop? Seriously, grow up. xd
Edit: Alright, I'll make one right now to demonstrate. >:)
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@Alberto309
I'll PM you on GameBanana.
I'll PM you on GameBanana.
You are KIDDING me, right? I think I placed exactly 16 spawn points per team.
About the overview, I think I can do something about it...
About the overview, I think I can do something about it...
Wow, thanks. 
Look at them, running at site B. The terrorists could now surprise them and get to site A.
Now that I look at the map this way, I think that it takes a lot less time to get to site B. -_-
No wonder I put "Rush B Сука" at the T spawn. :3
Also, look at the top. The brown hall with an L shape. I forgot to change the sprites on the candles there, from flame2.spr to a random glow sprite. Yeah, I hope that the flame2.spr problem will be gone.
Look at them, running at site B. The terrorists could now surprise them and get to site A.
Now that I look at the map this way, I think that it takes a lot less time to get to site B. -_-
No wonder I put "Rush B Сука" at the T spawn. :3
Also, look at the top. The brown hall with an L shape. I forgot to change the sprites on the candles there, from flame2.spr to a random glow sprite. Yeah, I hope that the flame2.spr problem will be gone.
Nah, don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.
@Alberto309
But you're missing the point. I said it's mighty by my standards, not by the global standards. xd
That's why I think that the R7 240, the R7 250 etc. are medium-end cards. Because that's how they pass my standards.
More on that in my journal. :]
@Windawz
OMG, OMG, OMG you silly little kid!
If the 700 is bigger than 600, it doesn't mean it's more powerful.
If the 60 is bigger than 50, then it means that it's actually more powerful.
And, lol, my Asus RX 460 which I'll hopefully get, is a tiny bit better than your GTX 750. :3
But you're missing the point. I said it's mighty by my standards, not by the global standards. xd
That's why I think that the R7 240, the R7 250 etc. are medium-end cards. Because that's how they pass my standards.
More on that in my journal. :]
@Windawz
OMG, OMG, OMG you silly little kid!
If the 700 is bigger than 600, it doesn't mean it's more powerful.
If the 60 is bigger than 50, then it means that it's actually more powerful.
And, lol, my Asus RX 460 which I'll hopefully get, is a tiny bit better than your GTX 750. :3
Well I wouldn't say "mighty"Oh, blah blah blah. It's mighty, of course it is.
Can you run HL2 on max settings and get good fps? Can you run Crysis 1 at 30 to 40fps on medium settings? Can you run DooM 3 and Quake 4 at medium settings and get good framerates? Yes?
Congratulations, it's mighty by my standards.
And I have a dual-core with 2 gigs of RAM. Another important factor is the GPU - you have the mighty GTX 660 Ti (which is overclocked, too). I have the Intel GMA 965. If we were to compare the 2, it's like comparing an ant (my laptop) to a wolf. xd
Thanks for all the info. =)
Thanks for all the info. =)
"That scene took me 2 minutes and 43 seconds to compile."That's how much it would take my laptop to render 1 frame on that map. XD
@Wiindawz
Mmmmm, no. Type _diffuselight. Man, looks like you'll need a modified FGD file. I actually modded my CS Expert FGD file and adapted it for J.A.C.K.
Mmmmm, no. Type _diffuselight. Man, looks like you'll need a modified FGD file. I actually modded my CS Expert FGD file and adapted it for J.A.C.K.
Now I remember using "-blur 0.001" in one of my maps... the shadows still weren't something, but they were somewhat sharper. Looks like the only thing we need is experimentation.
Now, where are my new screenshots of de_kobbl...
Now, where are my new screenshots of de_kobbl...
But I've had nothing to show. xd
If I had had anything to show, I would've posted a screenshot, and that's what I'm going to do now.
If I had had anything to show, I would've posted a screenshot, and that's what I'm going to do now.
*giant facepalm
Oh my God, I've just realised it. xD
Bounced lighting, of course...
So, chop and texchop don't have anything to do with shadows. Topic closed.
Now, let's just focus on our usual flow of data, i.e. the screenshots. New de_kobbl screens coming soon + day version.
Oh my God, I've just realised it. xD
Bounced lighting, of course...
So, chop and texchop don't have anything to do with shadows. Topic closed.
Now, let's just focus on our usual flow of data, i.e. the screenshots. New de_kobbl screens coming soon + day version.
Use the multi_manager, then.
I can recall the multi_manager working in, hmm, demo_2 and in de_stroytheschool. I should examine this stuff closer, maybe the targetnames are sensitive to capitalised letters etc.
Anyway, I put my laptop into a torture chamber - HlRad with "-chop 8 -texchop 4":
Looking good, eh?
Well, look at this:
No? Well, look at the corners:
That's the difference... seriously. And guess which parameters did I use for the second one?
"-chop 512 -texchop 256"
It looks like we finally debunked the mystery of the infamous chop and texchop. It doesn't affect the shadows. It affects the edges. This requires further experimentation, really.
I can recall the multi_manager working in, hmm, demo_2 and in de_stroytheschool. I should examine this stuff closer, maybe the targetnames are sensitive to capitalised letters etc.
Anyway, I put my laptop into a torture chamber - HlRad with "-chop 8 -texchop 4":
Well, look at this:
- PLEASE, NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE -
No? Well, look at the corners:
"-chop 512 -texchop 256"
It looks like we finally debunked the mystery of the infamous chop and texchop. It doesn't affect the shadows. It affects the edges. This requires further experimentation, really.
Nah, I don't really need the camera. -_-
Sorry.
Sorry.
In de_kobbl's case, it goes like this:
The bomb zone triggers the multi_manager which triggers the camera.
But in de_stroytheschool, it goes like this:
The C4 explodes and breaks a func_breakable which triggers a multi_manager which triggers a camera. At least I think so... hmm...
The bomb zone triggers the multi_manager which triggers the camera.
But in de_stroytheschool, it goes like this:
The C4 explodes and breaks a func_breakable which triggers a multi_manager which triggers a camera. At least I think so... hmm...
"How did you try to trigger it?"With a multi_manager.
It worked on 2 of my maps which use a camera.
de_stroytheschool has a trigger_camera which gives a scene of the school being destroyed after the C4 blows up.
And demo_2 which has a helicopter in it.
Ah well, I don't really need the camera. xd
The player can get close enough to the C4 explosion to see the beauty, without getting wrecked because of it. It's the player's option to admire the explosion. :3
And about the chop thing... it makes no damn difference. No difference whatsoever. I tried -chop 512, -chop 256 and -chop 128 (with halving the -texchop, of course), and it made no difference to me.
Of course, once you use "-notexscale", it should make a difference.
Basically, if your texture scale is 0.100, you'll have ultra-sharp shadows. If it's 2.000, then you'll have a very low-res thing from the mid 90s.
Basically, -notexscale treats every texture equally and projects the same grid on everything. That's at least how I think it works. Hmm, I haven't done any real experiments with it, but I'll see what I can do about it.
@Windawz
The .gif featured multiple versions of the map. If you watch closely, you will see that the explosions on site A also come with a bright light entity. Some parts of the GIF don't feature that. And for some darn reason, the trigger_camera entity doesn't work, despite being triggered and having a set of path_corners to follow. >:(
To actually answer your question:
The map versions were compiled with these parameters in HlRad:
-vismatrix sparse - texreflectscale 1.28 -chop 512 -texchop 256 -bounce 1
HlVis had "-full" every time, and it was pretty quick, actually!
And no, I didn't hide the visgroups. The individual grass blades really slowed down RAD.
Quote: "It means the .gif you made features the fast-compiled version of the map, right?"Tututututututu, not in the way you think.
The .gif featured multiple versions of the map. If you watch closely, you will see that the explosions on site A also come with a bright light entity. Some parts of the GIF don't feature that. And for some darn reason, the trigger_camera entity doesn't work, despite being triggered and having a set of path_corners to follow. >:(
To actually answer your question:
The map versions were compiled with these parameters in HlRad:
-vismatrix sparse - texreflectscale 1.28 -chop 512 -texchop 256 -bounce 1
HlVis had "-full" every time, and it was pretty quick, actually!
And no, I didn't hide the visgroups. The individual grass blades really slowed down RAD.
Quote: "I thought visgroups are used to make working on a complex map in 2D views easier.They are, but they can have that secondary purpose of "interchanging" map features. I could literally produce all 6 versions of the map by switching the visgroups on and off, which I will do.
Well, in the compile dialogue, you have this thing called "Save Visible Objects" or something like that.
When brushes and entities (which are a part of a visgroup) are hidden (i.e. the visgroup is turned off), they don't get compiled into the map.
Literally, those are visibility groups in the editor. You can, for example, visgroup a lot of detail brushes and hide them, because they're not needed for the fast compile. It's cool.
When brushes and entities (which are a part of a visgroup) are hidden (i.e. the visgroup is turned off), they don't get compiled into the map.
Literally, those are visibility groups in the editor. You can, for example, visgroup a lot of detail brushes and hide them, because they're not needed for the fast compile. It's cool.
So, I did some experimentation with the visgroups.
Aaand, I halved my compile time.
Basically, all the grass brushes (the ones with a transparent grass texture) were causing a major slowdown in HlRad, in such a way that even with -chop 512 -texchop 256 -bounce 1 it took it 10 minutes to do the job. Now it shrunk to just 5 minutes.
Now I am compiling the map with -chop 64 -texchop 32 -bounce 9 (and -texreflectscale 1.33) for a good result to show you folks how it looks like.
I also replaced my info_texlights with 3 light_surface entities.
In the meantime (while it's compiling), I'll show you this awesome C4 blast compilation:
This, my friends, is the reason why I started mapping. This is the definition of insanity. xd
Aaand, I halved my compile time.
Basically, all the grass brushes (the ones with a transparent grass texture) were causing a major slowdown in HlRad, in such a way that even with -chop 512 -texchop 256 -bounce 1 it took it 10 minutes to do the job. Now it shrunk to just 5 minutes.
Now I am compiling the map with -chop 64 -texchop 32 -bounce 9 (and -texreflectscale 1.33) for a good result to show you folks how it looks like.
I also replaced my info_texlights with 3 light_surface entities.
In the meantime (while it's compiling), I'll show you this awesome C4 blast compilation:
@Cd5ssmffan
The map should come in 6 versions:
de_kobbl - Original map, night time
de_kobbl_day - Original map, daytime
de_kobbl_gsu - Map for GSU: some features removed
de_kobbl_gsu_day - Map for GSU, daytime
fun_kobbl - Fun version, with more features
fun_kobbl_day - Fun version, daytime
If no-one likes the night version, then screw it, you have the day version.
And, Slade directly told me to use de_storm's aesthetics, hmm...
(P.S. Admer is a name, not an object xd)
@Windawz
"some of which is pirated"
In my case, it's "most of which is pirated". Man, you should just see how many programs I've pirated, ever since 2011. I blame Goldeneye: Source for that. I discovered torrents because of it.
The map should come in 6 versions:
de_kobbl - Original map, night time
de_kobbl_day - Original map, daytime
de_kobbl_gsu - Map for GSU: some features removed
de_kobbl_gsu_day - Map for GSU, daytime
fun_kobbl - Fun version, with more features
fun_kobbl_day - Fun version, daytime
If no-one likes the night version, then screw it, you have the day version.
And, Slade directly told me to use de_storm's aesthetics, hmm...
(P.S. Admer is a name, not an object xd)
@Windawz
"some of which is pirated"
In my case, it's "most of which is pirated". Man, you should just see how many programs I've pirated, ever since 2011. I blame Goldeneye: Source for that. I discovered torrents because of it.
I don't understand why would someone be sorry about including the taskbar in a screenshot.
And now that I think of it, I could've used Power 1 displacements to achieve whatever Dr. Orange did. Aaaaahhh... now I see...
And now that I think of it, I could've used Power 1 displacements to achieve whatever Dr. Orange did. Aaaaahhh... now I see...
Speaking of optical illusions:
This floor is actually flat:
And back to the topic of making that stuff:
It's susceptible to Vertex Manipulation:
But not as well as it should...
Now I see the problem with Vertex Manipulation. If you manipulate a displacement in that way, it doesn't preserve the texture UV, unlike real displacement tools. :/
It's susceptible to Vertex Manipulation:
Now I see the problem with Vertex Manipulation. If you manipulate a displacement in that way, it doesn't preserve the texture UV, unlike real displacement tools. :/
@Windawz
I am 99% sure that Dr. Orange used (or could've used) the Vertex Manipulation tool for that room. :3
You don't need to use the actual displacement tools provided in Hammer 4, just make the displacements and then move the edges. I've VM-ed displacements before, so I definitely know.
I am 99% sure that Dr. Orange used (or could've used) the Vertex Manipulation tool for that room. :3
You don't need to use the actual displacement tools provided in Hammer 4, just make the displacements and then move the edges. I've VM-ed displacements before, so I definitely know.
Pretty easily, actually. Place a brush, press Shift+A and select one surface. Then go to the Displacements tab and hit Create.
@Windawz
You were supposed to do it from the inside, not the outside. Or maybe both sides, if that's what you needed.
You were supposed to do it from the inside, not the outside. Or maybe both sides, if that's what you needed.
@Windawz
My first approach:
1. Make an inverted cube
2. Cut each side into a grid of tetrahedrons
See? This is the problem because this wouldn't resemble a ball. OK, maybe it would, but still, it's more like faking it. Hmm, but GoldSRC basically fakes a lot of it, so it shouldn't really matter.
3. Smooth out, i.e. subdivide, the "displacements".
Then, the other way is much more manageable and more time-saving:
1. Put a flat 360° arch
2. Put some squares on the arch pieces (OR MAYBE, cut the squares into the arch, but that wouldn't be so easy...)
3. Elevate the edges accordingly
4. Duplicate the first hemisphere and flip it upside-down or leftside-right, however you started out.
Yeah, I'll try out both methods.
My first approach:
1. Make an inverted cube
2. Cut each side into a grid of tetrahedrons
See? This is the problem because this wouldn't resemble a ball. OK, maybe it would, but still, it's more like faking it. Hmm, but GoldSRC basically fakes a lot of it, so it shouldn't really matter.
3. Smooth out, i.e. subdivide, the "displacements".
Then, the other way is much more manageable and more time-saving:
1. Put a flat 360° arch
2. Put some squares on the arch pieces (OR MAYBE, cut the squares into the arch, but that wouldn't be so easy...)
3. Elevate the edges accordingly
4. Duplicate the first hemisphere and flip it upside-down or leftside-right, however you started out.
Yeah, I'll try out both methods.
@Windawz
Well, my approach to hollowing a ball might be more mathematically incorrect, so I'll not have such an easy time if I want to make a correct one.
But hey, I don't have A's in geometry for nothing! I can make it.
Edit: I know! I'll construct it with pyramids instead of 4-sided blocks.
Well, my approach to hollowing a ball might be more mathematically incorrect, so I'll not have such an easy time if I want to make a correct one.
But hey, I don't have A's in geometry for nothing! I can make it.
Edit: I know! I'll construct it with pyramids instead of 4-sided blocks.
@Windawz
Ah, spiral ramps? Or curved spiral stairs? That's easy. I'll even cover that in my tutorial, The Big One. I'm 100% sure that CS 1.6 vehicles will hate those ramps. xd
Also, hollowing out a ball would be good for low-gravity Tau Cannon maps.
I can't wait to make my first hollowed ball.
Ah, spiral ramps? Or curved spiral stairs? That's easy. I'll even cover that in my tutorial, The Big One. I'm 100% sure that CS 1.6 vehicles will hate those ramps. xd
Also, hollowing out a ball would be good for low-gravity Tau Cannon maps.
I can't wait to make my first hollowed ball.
@Windawz
I think he used Worldcraft.
Or maybe Notepad, only God and he know...
Hmm, "zasuchit rukava". Well, if south-Slavic didn't have this "a" in "zasukati", but instead had "i", then it would be "zasuÄiti".
Hmm... First Palatalisation - K, G, H into C, Z, S when they're in front of E and I.
I think he used Worldcraft.
Or maybe Notepad, only God and he know...
Hmm, "zasuchit rukava". Well, if south-Slavic didn't have this "a" in "zasukati", but instead had "i", then it would be "zasuÄiti".
Hmm... First Palatalisation - K, G, H into C, Z, S when they're in front of E and I.
I replaced the mechanism which unlocks Easter Egg doors, with a new one:
Basically, there's a bomb inside, and you need to shoot it, after you pull the lever to move the picture.
@Windawz
Not "it's", that means "it is". Instead, use "its". It's correct to use its correct form: its; but incorrect to use it's incorrect form. (see what I did there? XD)
So, "suka" should be "bitch" in English, and "piÄka" (or "kuÄka") in south-Slavic. Well, that's not such a bad word when used that way.
Did you know that south-Slavic has a verb "sukati"? XD
It has multiple meanings:
sukati pitu - to roll a pie (the crust of the pie)
zasukati rukave - to roll up sleeves
And so on...
@Windawz
Not "it's", that means "it is". Instead, use "its". It's correct to use its correct form: its; but incorrect to use it's incorrect form. (see what I did there? XD)
So, "suka" should be "bitch" in English, and "piÄka" (or "kuÄka") in south-Slavic. Well, that's not such a bad word when used that way.
Did you know that south-Slavic has a verb "sukati"? XD
It has multiple meanings:
sukati pitu - to roll a pie (the crust of the pie)
zasukati rukave - to roll up sleeves
And so on...
Yes he did:
Ebanni karas'
Durak
something I couldn't recognise
Babka
Bljat (because my transcription system uses Ð›Ñ = Ljа)
Ebannie v rot
etc.
He also told me that "suka" isn't a bad word by itself. I don't know any more...
Ebanni karas'
Durak
something I couldn't recognise
Babka
Bljat (because my transcription system uses Ð›Ñ = Ljа)
Ebannie v rot
etc.
He also told me that "suka" isn't a bad word by itself. I don't know any more...
@Windawz
I have that in mind, I'll add "Ðе на Б, иди на Ð!" just to confuse the players. XD
I was actually playing on this map with a Russian friend of mine, and he always rushed towards bomb spot spot B. Hahahahaha.
Also, Bosnian should have around... let me just put it this way:
If 1 alternative for that word has the mass of a peanut, then the amount of all the alternatives in south-Slavic would be equal to the mass of 4 Suns.
(I'm actually being hyperbolic on this one, but we have a lot of such words too)
@Snehk
I've got a nice skybox, just let me post some new screenshots.
I have that in mind, I'll add "Ðе на Б, иди на Ð!" just to confuse the players. XD
I was actually playing on this map with a Russian friend of mine, and he always rushed towards bomb spot spot B. Hahahahaha.
Also, Bosnian should have around... let me just put it this way:
If 1 alternative for that word has the mass of a peanut, then the amount of all the alternatives in south-Slavic would be equal to the mass of 4 Suns.
(I'm actually being hyperbolic on this one, but we have a lot of such words too)
@Snehk
I've got a nice skybox, just let me post some new screenshots.
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@Windawz
"that you've got your hands on my boner"
A "boner" is when... ah well, I'm too young to know that, so I shouldn't say it. It's related to mature things in the bed, you know.
#continuing
Anyway, let's see what I've done with my map:
The blue lights indicate the bomb spots.
I added this thing. And I've recently added another one with 3 boxes or lemons.
The least-detailed part of the map, i.m.o.
It's available for download (open beta), too, and I'd love to find out the framerates of others.
@Windawz
"that you've got your hands on my boner"
A "boner" is when... ah well, I'm too young to know that, so I shouldn't say it. It's related to mature things in the bed, you know.
#continuing
Anyway, let's see what I've done with my map:
It's available for download (open beta), too, and I'd love to find out the framerates of others.
There's also QuArK, Radiant, Trenchbroom (oh wait, that's for Quake, xd), and so on...
But the best 2 options are J.A.C.K. and Sledge Editor.
But the best 2 options are J.A.C.K. and Sledge Editor.
Umm, I would never ask you that, because I literally have no idea what Brotherhood of Nod is, nor I'm planning to know that.
@Windawz
I found a good texture from chateau.wad, did some colour-balancing, and forged it into this:
It needs a few slight adjustments, but it looks OK for now.
@Snehk
Actually, it looks much much better in-game:
(those are old screenshots, but you get the idea)
I basically put 4 sprites around each lamp (one for every edge) and it works very well. Render Mode is Glow too, so it gives an extra layer of awesomeness.
I found a good texture from chateau.wad, did some colour-balancing, and forged it into this:
@Snehk
Actually, it looks much much better in-game:
I basically put 4 sprites around each lamp (one for every edge) and it works very well. Render Mode is Glow too, so it gives an extra layer of awesomeness.
@Crollo
I don't make maps for them. This is my first time, lol.
Hmm, he did show me some screenshots inside J.A.C.K., but even if he does make maps, he could probably use the expertise of an external agent.
Edit:
To actually answer your question: It's because of money.
I don't make maps for them. This is my first time, lol.
Hmm, he did show me some screenshots inside J.A.C.K., but even if he does make maps, he could probably use the expertise of an external agent.
Edit:
To actually answer your question: It's because of money.
Well, Slade (the co-owner of GSU) said that it's OK if I put detail in the map. Whatever happens, I'm OK with lowering the detail. I mean, I'd then just make a separate map.
Custom textures - yes, a WAD given by Slade and a few made by me
Windows - well, the window:
It's actually more than one texture. 2 wall textures (brick and indoors), 1 window texture and 1 white colour texture. And of course, Null. XD
Mm, also, you're right about the arches. I should use a different texture for that...
Custom textures - yes, a WAD given by Slade and a few made by me
Windows - well, the window:
Mm, also, you're right about the arches. I should use a different texture for that...
Alright, I've decided to, finally, finish de_kobbl.
And, I went mad about the detail:
Yeah, if this doesn't hurt my GPU, then I'm a good mapper.
I also put this up:
And, since the 'hall' was very boring and dull, I added some decorations:
I'll add a light or two there, too, so don't expect darkness there.
Man, I'm so excited because I haven't been mapping for a while now.
And, I went mad about the detail:
I also put this up:
Man, I'm so excited because I haven't been mapping for a while now.
Yep, this will be a hit in no time. 
In fact, it looks ugly and derpy right now. xd
Now it doesn't look so cute. :/
"I rescued a bee"In my country, some primitive people would just kill the poor bee or let it drown. ;'(
"Aww, that's adorable and cute. =3"
I didn't mean cel shading, I meant actual cartoon stuff, child-friendly things etc. not bloody monsters.
Now I wonder why Quake never had cartoony mods. Or had it?
Aww, it looks so cute! =3