All look really good, some suprisingly so... Here's my take on Tetsu0's:

Tetsu0: definitely. If you need help with testing, optimization or specific props you want to part out, lemme know, and i'll make them a priority! = )

Daubster/Zeeba: cool. Once you get yours in, we'll probably work on the official release--Muzz's entry brought us to the 10th-submission mark. I also want to add trigger camera intros for every room, and maybe even some audio from each author describing their map. I may also do some kind of intro area like in Kol's reissues pack...

I will still add latecomers after the official release, so no pressure to anyone who still has a room-in-progress out there...

Neat muzz only just noticed this! (no i can spend time integrating your map rather than failing at source mapping and playing L4D...)

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To other's with maps out there, any updates for us? I know Zeeba, Daubster, Hlife-hotdog, among others have WIP for this project...

Also to all, if you feel like making my life a little easier when submitting your map, do the following:

3===> Combine all your used, non-standard textures to a single wad(anything other than(halflife, xeno, decals, zhlt, and if you happen to use texures from others maps (with permission of course))

3===> Use info_texlights instead of submitting a lights.rad file for your texlights... It's just simpler, less files, and easier to edit.

(the above things are not necessary, as i don't mind doing the extra work, it's just fyi)

Oh really, why?

no.

oh ok:

Sweet, i can pull my ww2 American destroyer out of mothballs, or maybe i'll dare to try it in source... (probably not because at source i'm balls, aww)

Ha what a cute kid! (but now people over my shoulder will call me pedobaer!)

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Mine's Captain0terror
(but if we join the twhl group don't we all automatically make adds with everyone else?

I'm working on a new entry for this now--I scrapped my chess map because i was having too many problems with it--, but i'm having some trouble. I have no lights at all on the map(besides a couple small textlights and a small vgui texture that emits light) but it's coming out really bright:Here's the logfile and .vmf, if anyone can look at it i'd really appreciate it... I've tried using Hammer compiler and Nem's batch and i get the same results..

LOL i was going to make a big mechanical mouth on her(like a cyborg) and make it so you walked through... = )

Yes Pengy but notice in the group made out of triangles(which was never scaled whatsoever) the error also occurs throwing the verticies off-grid...

I even contacted Jed Smith(And he actually responded, and was quite nice)when i thought the compile was doing this, but it's discouraging that it's an issue with Hammer 4 itself...

Oh well.. is it worth reporting to Valve? I guess source mappers have gotten along for years without this hampering them too badly, so i suppose i can too, i was just looking forward too having more geometry freedom with source mappping, not less...

Rim you don't have orange box yet? Maybe you'd be better off buying the "Valve Complete Pack" doesn't that come with L4D too? But seriously you haven't played the Portal yet!?

And yeah Tetsu0 it bought L4D yesterday and still haven't played it yet = ( ... we'll have to play when we get time. = )

fuck me! = ) <buying now>

My ep2 maps were coming out much brighter than i expected, and i found that the vgui/achievemtnts/... textures emit light. I also had a room textured with Alyx Vance's face (don't ask) and noticed that it also emits light.

Is there a list or way to tell what textures emit light like this--it's not the lights.rad file, because none of these textures are in der. Also, is there a way to make them NOT emit light, in case a situation called for it?

[/incessant noob q's]

LOL at urby = )

I think in the future, we should make a map to tabulate votes... could be sweet.

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I agree picking your top 5 would probably work, but it's not hard to rate them all... takes 2 minutes. = /

Wow well at least it wasn't just me! = ) (this glitch has been driving me mad)

PB: Sure. = )
Original objects
Just a few brushes as requested

I've been trying to employ a technique i used in Hammer 3.x in Hammer 4, with some infuriating results.

The technique is simple: take a cylinder, slice it up horizontally at various spots using the clipping tool, and then while in VM, use ALT-E to scale various parts to give a "lathed" effect. This practice is great for simply and easily making a multitude of objects.The problem comes when i build one of these objects, save/close/reopen the map in Hammer 4, the vertices end up all askew, that is, where a group of vertices was once all lined up perfectly, they turn out all slightly out of phase with each other. This makes the compiled product look ugly indeed, because the objects that once were completely flush, now have all their vertices at slightly different coordinates, leading to visible gaps in-game.Is this a know issure for Hammer 4, or maybe, is it a glitch i'm encountering using 64-bit vista maybe? I've NEVER had this problem in Hammer 3.x. It's as if somehow Hammer 4 is realigning my vertices each time i reopen the map for anything that is not on the grid, and the effect gets worse the more times i close/reopen the map.

Another related technique/problem i'm having is in hammer 3.x, i used to build stuff entirely out of triangles, and make all sorts of crazy shapes and objects, with no error. Hammer 4 doesn't seem to deal with these objects very well, especially if you try to use the "ALT-E" scaling on a bunch of vertices.

And FINALLY, as a side note, I'm also noticing a problem with moving any sort of complex objects, I have to CONSTANTLY use CTRL-B to snap these objects to the grid. Even with the grid turned down all the way to 1, it seems hammer just can't deal very well with keeping them on the grid by itself. Is this also a known issue?

Phew. Does that make sense to anyone? I'll work on some example pics to illustrate the problem better.

Nah you just copy the list(i did it in notepad because it's easier to look at), and place a number beside each idea, 20 thru 1. Though i don't think it's really necessary to do all 20, it doesn't take long.

Have a look.

This is the worst idea ever

LOL raver you are funny. = ) I agree with zeeba this is the best, fairest way...

Yeah i agree with skals. How bout link to a text file?
(Mine's in notepad so viewing it in your browser might look ugly)

I dunno, like this?:

1) make a trebuchet .(too hard lol do not want = ))
2) make a movie .14
3) map your computer(All the inside parts and stuff).
4) Map a tree fort. 17
5) Map a small library.
6) Map a house from any cartoon or videogame.
7) map your house .
8) make a vehicle. 16
9) map something funny .
10)map your dream house. 19
11) map a ship. 18
12) Non-Xen alien planet .
13) Lost. (no.)
14) Water themed .
15) Map your house(demolished)
16) Map / Make a sculpture in hammer of your own face.
17) Map a lair fit for an evil genius. 15
18) Map Shawshank Prison.
19) Map a memorable area from a game.

no.

Really? Even with this checkbox checked?

Pengy you should hide the Recycling bin becuase it is pointlesss (that is if you have stuff set to delete automatically and not go to the bin like all the cool people do...)

Click here to have win.

That's cool Strideh! I should have used the blur effect rather than my "lambda circles" to censor (last month).

LOL@Billy Mays!

Hunter: Aw wally awww. (you have the dual display too? awww.)

Urban your card fails buy a newone (i don't care how good it runs the new games if you cannot goldsource mod it is fail. (i'm noticing fancy brushwork is not nearly as fun in source without hlfix to help))

LOL@Rim's new aviator! = )

I like the "map your house" or the "map your dream house" ideas and the "build a ship" idea mentioned from the rooms thread would be the pwn. (i got dibs on ww2 amarican destroyer!)

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cool no hurry, I still have lots of work to do on my entry too, and i'm totally rebuilding my rooms:s entry. neither of which, i've not even started.. = )

my computer exploded

Yeah, there's a lot of that going around lately...

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That message in the log was from one of your wads D:

LOL i fail! = )

PM recieved and responded to. = )

It works ok for me, but pay attention to the "larger than expected texture" errors, maybe they are buggering your compile?

I did say generally, but I've a couple friends who were part of the foster system and they were all abused by multiple fosters... so you're going to have a tough time convincing me the system is ok.

The minimum standards for fosters should be greatly increased for starters.

Simple Kid - Lil' King Kong

Yeah foster system fails. the type of "parents" who participate in the foster programs are generally the scum of the earth, and abuse/mistreat/exploit the children they are supposed to take care of in many cases... It's dreadful.

Oh and Zeeba I'm sure you're map will meet the specificatons... we haven't been very strict about rules or anything anyway, and I'm just happy were still getting entries. = )

Anyone else have updates? Feel free to build a second room if you like--I think hotdog is doing 2 rooms...

no idea--i checked my error diary but found this problem not--but i'll try compiling your map to reproduce the error if you like...

That's perfect muzz, at the top the doors will just open to the next room, and it's actually much more interesting than another bleh hallway..

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One word sums up this women: unfit.

Why any responsible women who ALREADY has 6 children, would opt to have EIGHT embryos implanted, is beyond my ability to understand. And as a bonuses, She's unemployed, sucking off the disability, living with her mother, AND is a single mom...

Someone pleez correct me if some of these facts are not correct, pleez...

Unfit mother is unfit.

Global Deejays Vs Benny Benassi - San Fransisco Dreaming (Musical Racket Mix)

P a r i s . . . L o n d o n . . . T o k y o . . . C a p e T o w n . . . B a g h d a d . . . D a l l a s . . . L A . . . B e r l i n . . . S a n F r a n s c i s c o . . . . . .
^_^

cl_gtfo 1

Potatis: click

TJB: Cool can't wait to see... = )

Anyone else out there have comments about their rooms-in-progess?

Wow, i think brushwork is harder in hammer 4 than hammer 3.x!Download

I like the way it looks in the editor, but it looks like absolute shit in the game. Plus there are cracks and brushwork errors, even though that whole thing is on the grid(for the most part).

If Valve ever makes Hammer 4 open source, maybe Jed Smith will make HLFix for sourcemapping too? I could do this error-free SO easy with Hammer 3.x...

So, guess this is my entry for source, unless i can find a way to improve it. If anyone has tips to improve how it looks in the game, pleez let me know!

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Broken Social Scene - Canada vs. America

Hello again Geometry Challenges!

Working on my Rooms:S map has given me an idea for a new one of these. Trying to build a Staunton-style Knight as proved particularly challenging, so i thought it might make a good, new geometry challenge:

Geometry Challenge 11 - Build-a-Knight!Build a staunton-sytle Knight chess piece.

-scale is up to you.
-custom textures, but pleez include the .wad
-include the .rmf/.vmf file

Deadline: A couple of weeks, but no definite deadline. Will play it by ear and be flexible, so no pressure or anything.

Engine: Goldsource or Ep2
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So what do you think? I realize we have both rooms projects going, but if you feel like entering and have the time, let's see what you got for this!

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Happy birthday don't drink too much! = )

That's sweet i downloaded the highest resolution before it went down, i feel so cool! = }

God that looks pwn i've only seen the still photos so far. Pretty sweet cast too, and i didn't even know Dennis Quaid is playing Duke?!

edit: oh Dennis Quaid is playin General Hawk, and Duke is played by some other guy

I still don't really understand what hint brushes are and how they work.

I've found hint brushes largely not very useful, yet some people swear by them. Every test map i've ever tried either yields negligible improvement or even a DECREASE in performance using them. I guess if you're uberl33t and can use them moar power to ya, but i gave up on them a long time ago1 = )

More important is to have a well-designed map with visblockers, or world brush barriers seperating the different areas of the map, and have it properly optimized:

3===>--Func_wall or func_illusionary complex brushes like pillars and detail/trim work.

3===>-Don't scale your textures too low--scaling them below 1.0 especially for large areas will boost your VIS time DRAMATICALLY, and make your wpoly soar to amazing(and unplayable) heights. I scale my textures as big as i can without them looking bad--rarely above 2.0-, but Stuff in the background can be scaled even bigger--between 2-4.0, sometimes higher depending how far the brushes will be from the player's sight.

My friend records his own music to an old fourtrack and it sounds professional--to me anyway. He says mixing and recoding isn't hard on a computer but he prefers doing it the old-fashioned way.

It seems like a relatively simple/easy thing to do... but i don't really know things... = )