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Ok bye then,

I'll let you think about the differences between people who do and people who just think...

You could've been playing a quality game, enjoying an in-depth experience for all the time it took you to write that.

I could have teached too to a stupid kid he may not be the smartest there, but instead of that I just realized you prefer protect his pointless agressive and personnal rants, let's see the day he will attack you as he attacked me for no reason but personal feelings, or the day you will realize he will never bring anything to your community but pointless comments...

What's wrong with the legs? They are ok to me, but on an other hand I don't see any way to get back the balls you played ...

edit: that would have been nice if the picture was a bit smaller by the way, we don't have giant screens here you know...

Self-affirmations is the thing most idiot to do

Wow this last post is really full of contradictions...

You're talking about self-affirmations while your posts got nothing but some of them...

Freedom of speech...

You're talking about freedom while telling me I am totally wrong, quite a selfish point of view don't you think?...

They just make this place more funny...

Actually? Not really...

Somebody here didn't understood a FUCKING WORD THAT I SAID...

Yes, you didn't understand what I just said: I don't give a fuck about everything somebody like you can think: Start doing something instead of telling me how I should think and maybe I could consider your off-topic personnal and agressive comments...

TWHL is a safe place for the newbies... Here they make their questions and we answer it...

You are talking about the forum while I was talking about the map vault and the game servers: I don't care about nubs of forums, yes they have to learn and stuff, I just think they should all be banned when they rule on maps databases and game servers, endlessly doing and posting and playing and voting shit...

If the noobs didn't exist, WTFHELL are we doing here???

We could enjoy a quality game, full of stimulating stuff, people who are always doing their best, releasing nice-looking things interesting to play, original, optimized, well done tested etc, enjoy a world of cooperation and competition, artistic for the mappers and simulation/arcade for the gamers, not have to answer the same questions again and again to all the one post people who come here without a "hi" or a "thanks you" and speak like a 6 years old kid, and especially not have to spend hours to deal with agressive trolls who look like to not be able to do anything else that posting shit on forums...

no comments on my pwetty picture? i spent a whole 5 mins on it

Who is the black guy? looks like familiar...

You know I spent 30.000 minutes to make a map to be told by nubs on all forums crappy maps are better than standard maps, so you're not the only one sad here...

NemoStein and FresheD, it's funny how you can post crap about my reply and conclude with exactly the same words I did, are you from that kind of internet trolls who endlessly need to hate somebody or something to feel better?...

Oh and by the way I fuck your opinions: If you think you're smarter than me and that I should think like you, that only you can post here, can think and have opinions, I just fuck you...

And if the general subject changes to something more funny, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM????

The problem is you obviously...

Else I have 4 words: Shut the fuck up!

Start first and I'll follow...

Maybe you should read the post and not only the topic.

I did read the topic but didn't understand everything, I just posted a comment about the title.

Yes my post is a bit off-topic, but it isn't so far the only one here, it's funny how people can critizise somebody by behaving exactly the same way ...

Crappy maps are not fun, the game is: When players are playing in a killbox, they don't enjoy the map, they just enjoy the game: Killboxes are nothing but the straightest way to play the game basics themselves, free from any annoyances real maps put but which creates the level design (the map personnality) and the gameplay (the map rules), and the easiest way for (mapper) nubs to put themselves between the game and players and say "look at me, I did a fun map!!", I can't believe you still didn't understand that if you're really playing the game for so much years...

It's funny you're talking about assumptions, you're obviously not in position to give me any orders...

lol

Rawr your mother is fat!

Yes she is indeed

What? What the hell are you on about?

I thought "raising the bar" means "raising the bar (of mapping criterias)", we are on a mapping forum you know, so ...

Wow every fuckin time you post you say some Asinine remark.

It's still better than to say people are tappering themselves every time they are doing better than you...

Oh man, I thought I found at last a HL community who was sick of nub mappers, players and admins and decided to ban them all from its database... Well, congrats to your brother then ...

A good Counter Strike map must be fun/good layout, but at the same time be nicely made. My favriote map of all time is cs_assault.

lol

JC, do you actually think that if a mass audience calls a map "fun" that it will influence others to think the same? Playing the map with others determines fun. You cant force someone to believe what they are doing is fun, thats stupid. I personally love custom detailed maps that took time and effort.

You are obviously totally new into the CS community then...

That is not true. My gaming clan (8 members) and my other clan (4 members) hate maps that are ugly.

Yes, and as you said you are 12 guys... I know there are some players and clans who are still interested into playing new and good quality maps, but they are really a minority...

CS players want to play crappy maps, and any attempt to bring some "quality" or whatever will just be considered as an attack to their little shit world, and you will just be kicked like hell until you give up.

If you think quality, originality or whatever, don't think CS, you will just waste your time. Yes smart CS players exist, but they aren't, in my opinion, enough numerous and especially brave to justify the ammount of work you could put into these maps and support you, unless you consider as "originality" the fact to just throw dozens of high-quality models and props and whatever into crappy maps ...

not the "remaking of bad maps" as you call it

Hem, no I didn't call anything here but, as always, that maps other that de/cs are pure crap, this is your thread title in case you forgot...

I agree that details distract players, and that is in my opinion exactly the point into the success of crappy maps: the more they are simple and the more players like them, because they are lazy, too lazy to search for their enemies (bright maps are more popular than dark maps), too lazy to recognize enemies and allies (aim maps just split them on the opposite sides of a killbox), too lazy to settle strategies (just pick up and frag and die) and too lazy to think they could need to work a lot to do better than the map they are currently playing, that's exactly why such masterpieces of shit like awp_map or iceworld or most dust remakes are popular, because they are simple. And these maps aren't fun: nubs just called them "fun" to give the map an interesting side, because the word "fun" doesn't mean anything and can be used as you need, as some kids who say it's fun to fight with some sticks (until one of them got the eye hurted) or to throw stuff on an animal or to break something, or as people who kill people and say it's sacred, because God told them, to turn an horrible slaughter into an "holy task", come on...

This is not because a pack of morons call something something it is real, and this is not because they are more numerous they are right: "fun" maps are just pieces of shit, and the first sane-minded person who got the eyes open and got some clues about what gaming and mapping is cannot pretend such maps are "fun" or whatever, they are just nubs meat...

If you "improve" them, you will just kill them, because they will requiert more effort from the "players" to "pwn", and they will prefer crappy maps to yours...

wow great idea Xyos212, funny how you got it right before to post I am tapping myself with aim_verdun, which is a mix of the crappiest CS maps, awp_map and iceworld...

Just an idea trying to be original

Personnally, I see no idea and no originality into making remakes, especially from crappy maps...

fy_iceworld = shit

+1

In terms of popularity and fun, absolutely not. Fy maps are sort of like DM for cs

sort of poison for CS I'd say, such maps just attract kind of players CS does not need...

I would like to understand: How could they "launch a rescue party" if they have no coordinates, nothing to know where to go and what to rescue? ...

gg Urbanebula

I haven't figured out how to code this feature yet so until I do I will continue

Use html editors like Front Page or Dreamweaver or Golive or another, it's much easier and faster to make basic web pages with ...

Visual [-------[JC]-------] FPS

It's pointless to me to play a FPS if your computer cannot run it at least over 20 frames per second, but on an other game it's pointless too to play a game that would look like 10 years old first 3D games, with 4-8 cubes on the screen...

I always thought it was "TVHL", for TV (television), and HL (half-life), and that the guy did a mistake while registering the domain name ...

Total War Half-Life

Total Weird Half-Life

Toons Wacked Hired Liars

Together Wight (for a) Hetter Lorld (the guy was drunk while registering)

Tommy Went (to the) Hunting Lines (yes I know that doesn't mean anything)

T=20 + W=23 + H=8 + L=12 = the age of the website owner

Or maybe it is an aliens code...

Welcome on this forum,

thanks for clearing these points with us: As I just said, I didn't know what to really think from your site, and wondered if it was a kind of trap for lost young people, with no real objectives in their lives (something like "you don't know what to do in life? Join the army!!", and the boy signs up and joins the army, and is sent to some war areas, with no real trainings, and got killed for nothing...), I am glad to realize my fears were wrong ...

I have been able to see most of the world. I have been to every country in Europe and North Africa and been thru the Suez Canal.

Wow nice!

I do not "recruit" from the site but do get emails almost everyday of people asking me about my experiences

Won't don't you "simply" write and upload a kind of album, with stories, photos, maps etc from your experiences, instead of answering again and again to posts on the forums and to emails? It would be more efficient, and save you an incredible ammount of time ...

You didn't get it: what I mean is sometimes there aren't anymore any good servers to join.

And:
_I am talking about CS 1.6,
_I am talking about players who act like bots, not AI players, I am talking about guys who:

_never talk, and type any message, or just sometimes, in the best cases, "fun", "/stats", "/rank", "vote d2 all" etc...
_endlessly buy the same weapon, rush the same path, throw the same grenade to the same point, kill the same guy and especially be killed the same way (by me, waiting for them somewhere), I am talking about guys who obviously cannot learn, have no imagination, no life, nothing but to buy ak and to do 1-3 frags before to die...

Man, that's scaring, what I mean is some people looks like to be more stupid, more cold, more... dead than the computers they're using...

Believe me or not, sometimes, when I want to have a break, play CS for half an hour, I got a server list like this one :

coolguys [megaroxors.com]....12/24...de_dust2
daultimatekillers -=[pwn]=-....08/16.....de_dust
anotherteamserver [yeah].....15/18.....de_dust2
fun maps only !!!..................9/16.....fy_poolday
ohyeahbabyletsdoitcomeon..28/32...de_dust
dust only server 24/7...........18/18.....de_dust2
true soldiers of bloody war.....3/12.....awp_map
pwn pwn pwn!!!................13/16.....de_dust2
unknown server................24/32.....de_dust2
CS 1.6 game server............1/24......de_storm
fun a cool server fun............7/18.....as_oilrig
dust only server..............19/24...de_westwood
letshavefuntogether.......9/10....de_dust
house of fraggers..........13/18....fy_iceworld

man, where are the true players?? They all look like bots!!

A year ago, I didn't care that much about crappy maps, they were already way overrated, but there were still some good servers to join, so that was ok, but nowadays my whole server list is totally infested of "dust only" and "fun maps" servers!!

please, plzzzzz, I want real maps, real players, please give me back CS, I don't want to turn into a mindless braindead bot! I already had my Quake time, now it's ok, I don't want to play it again, plzzzz gimme back CS!!

Wow guys, you can be so bad sometimes...

I like it ...

Last question : Is it the first website of this kind you see, or am I just discovering something that is very popular/used for years?

And... Is this really legal?...

I am sorry about my english, I know I still need to learn and improve it, but just notice me that won't help me that much you know ...

I agree with you about have a break etc, I agree that such maps can exist, but the point is that actually they are infesting CS, they lead it, and I consider the balance between "reality" and "anything" broken...

If players got enough stress with matches, playing on real maps, playing with strategy, teamplay etc, and they need a break, why don't they "simply" switch on another game, like, simply, on HLDM, or Quake 3, or shut down their comps and have a walk in the park? Or go to work or whatever? It's amazing how people actually look like to not be able anymore to unstick from their comps, and, more scaring, cannot unstick from CS...

I consider CS as a game, with given game rules, gameplay etc, and "maps" like fy/aim/etc are just fakes, and off-topic maps, that should just be removed from the game. Mappers have to follow these rules or look for another game that fit better with what they would like to map...

What if for example I suggest that your favorite TV sport team plays now with tomatoes instead of normal sport balls, just because I consider this is fun? That would ruin the whole sport experience right? This is the same case with CS : non-CS maps are killing it...

What about:
[_] a CS clan of keen U.S.A. Navy members
?

They wouldn't made pages of "clic here to join the army" and "Navy Height & Weight Chart Female", they would rather made pages of "look at us, we are in the army, we are men now! we know what's the war now! we are da l33t RoX0rz Pr0f32210nal crew!!1" in my opinion, that's why this site looks really really strange to me, almost worrying, and as my english is not perfect, that I don't perfectly get what the pages mean, I thought about ask for your opinions ...

So, what's your opinion about that?

[_] is this a real recruitment area, disguised into a cheap fake CS gaming website ?

[_] is this a CS team website designed by an US army fan ?

[_] is this a fake/hoax, faking both CS and the US army ?...

J.C; I am in the CS community, are you calling me a retard? Seems to me to be a very generalised

Sure it is lol

and un informed statement.

Not it isn't : I am studying this community for one year now (playing CS for three ones), and I exactly know what I am talking about.

Notice in the second map ZL posted, 5 stars and 4500 downloads, its a kill box, yes. But clearly a lot of people WANTED to play that map. If we were to rate that map (or at least I were to) I would be rather criteque about the size, detail, longjevity (sp?) of the game play. But clearly, a lot of people DID like the map, even if it wasnt all pretty and flashing.

That is where you are totally wrong, and the typical kind of reasoning that makes this community going bad, and people on forums endlessly discuss about killboxes vs "true maps".

CS has been created by people who are sick of Quake (then quakers), then there isn't anything worse they want that (mindless) Quakers to infest their games, and such "maps" are the most efficient way to attract all (nubs) quakers around : If (websites and game servers) admins were a bit more responsible, CS would still be a nice community, where only the teamplay and competition matters, and not to endlessly have to deal with endless waves of nubs who are ruining ==> EVERYTHING <== around them.

If you support killbox, yes I definitely consider you as a retard : it's not because some stupid, talentless and lazy kids consider such "maps" worthy playing they worth exist : nubs don't have to rule CS, they just have to stfu and learn ...

About CS maps, that's what the players like to play so give it them. Otherwise, don't map for them but for another public

I disagree :

_mapping for anything else that players is pointless to me.
_mapping for people who are only requesting shit is pointless to me.

The whole CS players community got an incredible problem with critique and demanding, just take a look on the ratings from this page to get it :

http://www.cstrike-planet.com/maps/cstrike

and I am not talking about fpsbanana.com maps : the more they are pure crap and the more they are downloaded...

Fuck the CS community, they are all retards...

But I think the very first problem with CS is all those irresponsible admins : web admins who accept any maps on their database, just to grow up their stats and make "look at my site, it got the most maps!", and game server admins, who upload hundreds of maps, just to act like "look at my server, it got the most maps, lot of fun here!!". Fuck'en all come on...

just an example of this shit, take a look at this team forum topic:

http://www.team-arsenal.com/index.php?file=Forum&page=viewtopic&forum_id=4&thread_id=223

it's in french, then I translate for you:

"1877 MAPS PACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes you are not dreaming !!!!! 1877 maps have been joined together into this pack !!!!!

Amongst them :

[endless list of shitty maps (36 times the word "dust" inside)]

The pack is 2,2 Gb !!!!! And once unzipped, it takes 5,59 Gb !!!!!!!!!!!!

Crazy stuff, the biggest ever on internet !!!!

All hop on the ftp, it's ultra fast in addition !!!!!!!!"

6 posts later, the same guy:

"Guys that piss me off, I post links and nobody download! Even the teammates....

It's useless, I add more maps that way we only play dust2....."

Hold on, the worst didn't come yet:

I join the conversation, and just reply:

"what the point into downloading 5 Gb of maps if at least three quarters of them are crappy?

I spent six monthes on de_raid, and you removed it from your server, while it had much better stats than shits like "scoutzknivez" and "iceworld" so..."

his reply:

"the problem with new maps is that everybody leave the server when it runs" ...

"I am ridiculous, please shoot me"

"gimme your steam id plz"

"driving on this road is not allowed, owning a car is not allowed, sitting here and reading this sign is not allowed, walking along this road is not allowed, looking at me is not allowed, your f#ckin9 life is not ###allowed so die ffs !!
!"

"awp_map players r gayz"

"if you can read this, you are smart, but lost ..."

"plz contact us if you see blue trucks on this road : 0347 blue trucks"

A guy from this website just suggested me an affiliation between our websites :

http://navycs.com/

Is it really what it looks like? ...

McDiddy, by SuperJer
http://www.superjer.com/mcdiddys.php

Predator-Strike, by ? (fpsbanana.com)
http://www.fpsbanana.com/fun/fmovies/Predator-Strike.swf

Heavy Metal Guy (mondominishows)
http://3web.dkm.cz/koplih/hmg/hmg.htm

Poker Night (mondominishows)
http://3web.dkm.cz/koplih/pn/pn.htm

5 things I hate about CS
http://www.fpsbanana.com/?section=viewitem.art.fmovies.main.17
a crappy old flash movie, but so true...

Official apologizes from the Denmark would just mean the defeat of the worldwide democrazy against islamic terrorists, a new forward step in their world domination purpose: today we cannot draw their prophet, tomorrow we will have to build mosques everywhere for them ...

Democracy looks like to have reached its limit: If "we" won't be able to tell them "STFU", they will do...

There, there, you all think you all suck, while we atheists and similar watch on, bemused and saddened.

/signed

Isn't the real point of all religions, beyond everything, to finally just be the easiest way to think you're superior to the others? Because you believe, because it's written in a fucking sacred book, you're the one and all the others suck, they have just been created to serve you, they are always wrong and you are always right, you even don't need to think to be right, you just have to believe in your god and everything is ok, everything, you can even slaugther who you want and destroy whatever you want, if it was a guy who doesn't believe, it is just a crime, but if this is you, it is an holy act, before God told you...

Come on...

Aren't to believe and to think opposite finally? ...

(what does mean "bemused" by the way?)

Yes, you just had to open the tasks window and close it.

I tried to make something that could look like a virus once, you will not consider it as a virus and I will be agree. Believe me or not, the matter was to protect my work computer : the virus was supposed to :

_start when the desktop is displayed,
_take a snapshot (of it),
_display this snapshot,
_doesn't care about all mouse clics, all keybords entries etc, just endlessly keeps on displaying the desktop as it is supposed to be.

The point was to make the user (other than me) to think "wtf, something is wrong with that comp, I can't open anything, bah I will go on another one np..."

they only care bout the gameplay

What gameplay?

doing endlessly
1?) to spawn,
2?) to grab a weapon,
3?) to see somebody enemy,
4?) to move the pointer on his head,
5?) to click/kill,
6?) to die,
7?) to wait,
is not a gameplay, it's nothing, it could be possible to make the same game in a nub flash "game" : the gameplay is a matter of choice, that a player A will do this while a player B will do that instead, that all games are not alike, that you have to think, that all players are different while playing. Most "fun" maps have no gameplay, this is exactly their points : people playing them just look like bots, but surely not like players ...

In my opinion an MMO game doesn't need physics: Seriously, it will just kill the servers, just emulate some collisions and some others world rules (gravity etc), and that's enough, players won't care about "oooh, look at this ball launched in the air and bouncing on this wall, its run is sooo realist!", come on...

Same, but I don't really consider myself an "atheist" : this word has just been invented by people who think they are the only ones able to believe, and that the others cannot... Arrogance. I believe in me, in my projects, in people around me, in the Sun (*), in Earth, in animals, natural selection etc, I am even ready to believe in Allah or Buddha or aliens or whatever if they show me, but I really don't believe in people who act like terrorists just because somebody somewhere in the world drawed a picture about them...

(*) : in my picture of the world, the Sun is the closest thing relative to a divinity : it made born our mother (Earth) and it keeps it living, it generates more energy in one second that everything we could do in a whole life (I am talking about ourselves, our actions, not machines, plants etc), it warms our skin when it raises and lights up our whole world day after day, it could kill us with a single fingersnap, no matter the protection we could settle, it existed before God and will still exist after, and if it dies, we are all doomed, no matter our survival abilities, so, seriously, if it is not a god, what it is?...

Sun pwns everything in our world.

Islam is 500 years younger than Christianism, the "Coran" book has been written 500 years after the Bible if I remember well, and contains most items of it (Jesus, "mary virgin", god etc), it is just an other point of view, more messy again that the Bible is to me...

(for words between "", sorry but I don't know their english names)

The first people who notice and told about these pictures don't care about them, they just used them, as they are using the whole muslim community as a cover to keep their real businesses going: everytime they get something they could take some advantage, they just put "islam" on, and it's the same shit again and again, the whole world is turning into a pointless debate about who is right and who is not, while a minority lives from this chaos ...

if they dont like what we do in our country, then dont come here

/signed

what the fuck?J.C you are complete moron.Go stare at America plz.

How should I consider the orders from a guy who insult me?

I don't like the american government much than the first guys who are like "omg we are offended! look this picture from a newspaper from the other side of the world, they attacked islam!!", and when I see on TV "american cops mistakes" (4 white cops slaughtering an old, drunk, black teacher), I just see the same shit that while looking the lame lame "omg you treated us terrorists?? omg we are angry, we will destroy everything!!!", I just would like to have the power to eradicate this humanity shit with a fingersnap...

Whats so fun about making viruses?

I am sorry I didn't read the whole thread, I just add my 2 cents :

just consider these possibilities:

to get some attention
I remember years ago there was cracked amiga games where the "cracker" just... added his l33t hax0rz name when the game started, nothing else, it's like those kids who had "by", "brought to you by", "powered by" etc at the start of mangas for example you downloaded: because they translated it, they think it belongs to it, they think they made it ...

to annoy
some people just have a sad and pointless life, and some of them are skilled enough to waste it to waste those of the others : some ones send you letters like "your mother told me your are *$@&ass" and to your mother "lol your son just told you're a #&itch!!", some others write hax, this is a part of human being ...

Challenge
Some people, while looking at a mountain, feel they have to reach its summit, to "beat" it, again, this is human being, some others, they look at a girl, they won't stop until they f#ck#d her, some others about video games (finish it, get the hiscore etc), some others it's about money, power, drugs, arts etc... and there are this part of the hackers: a new soft come out, let's beat it: I don't care my hax will bore people, I don't even think to release it, I will just send it to the "scene", as a proof, and of course some nolife around will talk about it ...

Competition
You're the boss of a company that just released an incredible, totally revolutionary, powerful, new software. Fine. You get lot of money, hire lot of people, you are on the newspaper, on internet, you got lot of friends etc. Fine, fine, until somebody release a competitor product...
Most people just keep working hard on their side to still make their products competitive, some others think about an other way to keep the leadership...

Keep the people need anti-virus software
You own a company that sell anti-virus software. Fine. What is, seriously, the best way to keep it working fine? How do you seriously think they got the fix before everybody???

If there weren't diseases, there wouldn't be doctors.
If there weren't thieves, there wouldn't be cops.
If there weren't soldiers, there wouldn't be soldiers.
If there were education, there wouldn't be any need of judges, politicians, prisons, lawyers, countries and all those guys who live in the middle of papers and grids and numbers and think for us and live thanks to us...

The elite part of our civilisation needs its worst part to keep their businesses working, it's a matter of balance, of survival, for them...

To apply a water texture to a single face of a brush.
(my first Hammer use hour)

I wondered for maybe an hour wtf was wrong ...

since it's believed that God created him and you shouldn't try to imitate God.

I seriously can't believe they even didn't notice things like cloning, 55 years old pregnant women, all our movies/comics/TVshows/etc industry and all the other stupidities of our societies that is replacing humans with machines (factories full of automatic engines), and jump and shout and threaten like hell for a... a... man a f&ck$ng picture!!

Here is what's happened :

1?) somebody drawed a picture of one of their divinities,
2?) They're like "omg you treat us as terrorists!! we aren't!! so we attack your ambassies, burn flags, attack your people living in our countries etc!!",

oh my... man, how could you consider seriously such behaviors?

COME ON, WHO THE FUCK ARE THOSE LAME ASSES???

The only point to consider here is that they obviously want to rule the world, and any pretext, anything possible, looks good for them to make them spread a bit more their lame lame primitive way of life. Because they believe in something, everybody, everything, got to respect them, while they obviously have no respect for everything else but themselves...

They just look like kids with a very bad education : you laugh once about something they like, they break everything around them...

I am not a christian, I am not talking about a war between christians and muslims, I am talking about a war between civilized people and people who still live in middle-age...

I play more than I map these days, if you dont play a game then how are you supposed to make maps for it?

There's no 100% mapper. What's the point of mapping if you don't play it?

I totally agree, but sometimes on forums (not that much on THWL's), I test maps from people who obviously does not play the game (CS maps with strange runtimes, dozens of strange "traps" triggers in a CS map, dust remakes with just 3 extra crates and 1 extra hole/path, etc), that's why sometimes I really wonder... while I see in addition on forums people talking about mapping (announcing "tutorials" they wrote (how to do a breakable window), giving advices etc) who obviously never mapped (talking very seriously, with technical words, tips picked straight from some mapping website, but with some mistakes, and the only problem is that finally doesn't help at all the guy who is requesting some help)... strange world all the same isn't it?

In my opinion, as yours, mapping is a real job, that needs real skills, a real interest, a lot of time, and patience etc, but it really shoudn't overrun/exceed the gaming interest, else it becomes totally pointless : sure you do great maps, well optimized, nice-looking, with dozens of models and sounds and this and that ok ok ok, but come on, this isn't a "map" anymore, this just turned into an artist showcase...

Why remake anything the way it was?

Agreed, but on the screenshot, it doesn't look now exactly the way it was in the original version : ...

Porting original maps is a dumb idea anyway, they'll look far worse then new, flashy source maps.

Agreed too, except if they are popular and players ask for them !

Then you mean that workers, taxi drivers, cooks, sweepers etc as a lower level of persons? Hadn't you ever heard about people who "succeeded" in life with no diploma?

Gaming and mapping are linked to me : when I play a game, there's necessarily a day or another when I feel I have to map for it, because I think something is wrong, could be better, that I have to test some ideas etc, then I play less and start mapping, then I test what I mapped, then I am bored and play again on old maps, then remember why I wanted to map etc...

To be 100% gamer is not wrong to me, but to be 100% mapper totally is in my opinion on an other hand : a mapper who doesn't play is simply totally clueless about what he is doing, and the best way to notice him is when he has nothing to talk about but fps and graphics : when he tests a map (never more than 5 minutes), graphics are nice then the map is nice, else crappy graphics then the map sucks...

The worst thing about mappers is that most of them consider mapping as an higher form of gaming, which is totally totally wrong to me...

However, even before that, there were PC games like Kung Fu something.

"kung fu master", it was at the end of the kung fu fashion the world had with Bruce lee movies, and that finally generated later Street Fighter ...

Oh, I am confused, and sorry, but it appears that I might be wrong with the topic I reported here about "kz" maps : it looks like they are talking about maps they have finished (they played and reach the objective) and not maps they made, well sorry then, and in the same time I'm quite glad this level of mediocrity hasn't still be reached !

That's kind but that is not really what he requested...

Pong is the original video-game.

Pong is not the first video game, it is the first one known, but not the first one : the very first video games have been created during the 1950-1960 decade by americans students, which there's nothing left today, but I heard it was matter of questions/answers, guess the number I think, hit the right target etc games, Pong went out in 1971 I think...
(edit : 1972 from gamefaqs)

Also, for your research, here are some clues...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/
http://www.vgmuseum.com/
http://www.klov.com/
http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=video+games+museum&meta=

I do not have experience in games development however I do have a lot of modding experience, the games I have worked on are: Operation Flashpoint (programming/mission editor/3d modeler/camera scripting), Dawn of War (programmer), Doom3 (map editor, some programming), Quake 4 (map editing), Bf2 (a little bit of object server alterations), Hl2 (a little map editing). These are the games I?ve worked on, I also know HTML, PHP, how to use and maintain MySQL, how to use Apache web server and VB.Net. Currently learning C++.

You have experience in game development if you have experience in modding, it's basically the same thing but the fact the game engine is ready-to-use, fact that you could complete well with your C++ learning...

If you have no experience becides modding and plan to release this as retail, you will fail. To get your product manufactured, to make a good game, and to know about marketing it you need education.

Marketing is an important key nowadays to sell games yes, but not an exact science : CS and the Sims are examples of what a game can succeed no matter the "quality" of its marketing...

Like EVERYTHING in life education is key

What do you exactly mean? That the more a person went to school and the more he/she worthes in the community?

Why not built first a demo website to talk about the game concept ? You could upload there all your scenarios, game mechanics, artworks, alpha version engines etc, instead of coming here and "just" say "hi, I have a project, here is my mail", and you could have had your own forum where to seriously discuss the stuff, recruit people, write a FAQ page etc ...