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Created 18 years ago2006-05-02 14:58:29 UTC by Habboi Habboi

Habboi
Habboi
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 14:58:29 UTC Post #178004
If you pre-ordered Half-Life 2: Episode One then you will receive yet another shameful remake of such a great game.

yes that's right...They made Half Life Deathmatch for Source and guess what...It is exactly like HL1:Source with the nasty textures and the poor attempt at making things look nicer...

Take a gander at this:

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/561/undertow00072gr.jpg

Urgh, Nice water and Old HL1 water mixing together = Disgusting...

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7131/undertow00066da.jpg

I got a load more pictures but I'm off to play CS:S with Hunter...See ya ;) Discuss!
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
_JesteR_
_JesteR_
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:19:09 UTC Post #178007
Uggghhh....why the hell would I want to play that?!? I'll either play HL1 DM or the DM Source. This combination looks really awful :furious:
_JesteR_ _JesteR_
SpaG
SpaG
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:38:38 UTC Post #178011
WTF? That looks so gay.
SpaG SpaG
satchmo
satchmo
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:44:51 UTC Post #178015
Valve should fire the idiot who implemented that immediately.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Seventh-Monkey
Seventh-Monkey
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:46:13 UTC Post #178018
Why on Earth did they bother?
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
SpaG
SpaG
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:48:16 UTC Post #178019
They did a very wrong move here.
SpaG SpaG
Kasperg
Kasperg
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:54:03 UTC Post #178021
They didn't actually bother doing anything at all.

I think the process was something like:
1) Open the rmf.
2) Convert the WAD file
3) Select the water texture and replace with a dev_water texture
4) Place a water_lod entity
5) Place a cubemap
6) Compile and buildcubemaps.
Kasperg Kasperg
Xyos212
Xyos212
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 15:58:47 UTC Post #178022
All I can say is wha da faa?
Xyos212 Xyos212
Luke
Luke
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 16:13:12 UTC Post #178030
Ghey is Valve says Luke.
Luke LukeLuke
dustbunny
dustbunny
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 16:38:17 UTC Post #178035
What were the changes to HL:Source, it really didn't look different. the only thing I realized was that I pushed a box, and it rolled, really slowly.
dustbunny dustbunny
Jobabob
Jobabob
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 17:07:18 UTC Post #178044
BUT THE WATER IS SO SHINY
Jobabob Jobabob
Seventh-Monkey
Seventh-Monkey
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 17:09:14 UTC Post #178045
Yeah, but Kasperg, think of the coding, adjustments of models, etc.
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Kasperg
Kasperg
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 17:14:56 UTC Post #178048
Models look the same to me...
The thing is, this NOT the HLDM remake we would all like. We'll still have BM:S
Kasperg Kasperg
Kasperg
Kasperg
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 18:29:06 UTC Post #178065
I just love how the map snarkpit looks now. Great skybox!
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3808/snarkpit1uu.jpg

Rapidcore has a new shiny look and shader forcefields
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7929/rapidcore3wt.jpg

But if you look at other maps like lambda_bunker, you have to admit there's been some improvement.
Old http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2782/bunker22pw.jpg
New http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2588/bunker15to.jpg
Kasperg Kasperg
Saribous
Saribous
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 19:01:35 UTC Post #178066
That last pic does look pretty nice
Saribous Saribous
dustbunny
dustbunny
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-02 19:52:07 UTC Post #178068
Have anymore comparisons, I never realized the difference.
dustbunny dustbunny
Kasperg
Kasperg
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 06:44:42 UTC Post #178118
More comparisons using the map "bounce".
In most of the maps, it seems the terrain parts were redone with displacement sufaces. Every light fixture comes with a glow sprite.

Before http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8233/pic1normal7xy.jpg
After http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3063/pic1source2bt.jpg

Before http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7905/pic2normal4jl.jpg
After http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/363/pic2source2xf.jpg

Before http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5123/pic3normal1ea.jpg
After http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/407/pic3source9ir.jpg
This last one was really shocking. Point lights and opaque blue water? I thought only n00bs did that! Maybe they all were all n00bs back in 1998...
Kasperg Kasperg
Howdy
Howdy
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 06:56:13 UTC Post #178119
:zonked:
Howdy Howdy
AJ
AJ
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 07:25:50 UTC Post #178122
Ok seriously, why are you bagging Valve? Anyone who's getting Episode One is also getting this totally free, so who gives a crap if there's only minor additions? Personally, I'm glad: never liked HL2DM (HLDM was a lot better) so having the chance to play HLDM with a little more pizzazz is nicely appealing.

Sure, if we were made to pay an outrageous fee for it (outrageous being more than 10 bucks) then I'd be pretty pissed off at Valve.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
pepper
pepper
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 07:32:20 UTC Post #178124
I like this a lot!. I hope they will release mapping tools too.
pepper pepper
AJ
AJ
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 07:36:52 UTC Post #178126
I think you can just use the Source SDK.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
pepper
pepper
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 08:26:33 UTC Post #178134
You can? W00t!
pepper pepper
Saribous
Saribous
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 10:28:02 UTC Post #178158
You get this for free with Afterm..err Episode One eh?

I wasn't going to buy the expansion, but i will now :biggrin:
Saribous Saribous
Xyos212
Xyos212
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 10:57:54 UTC Post #178161
That would be cool if they re-did the HLDM all for source. Source textures resembling the old ones, source models, weapons etc. (New ones, not HL2 weapons, HL1 re-done models for source) It looks like all they did was add some blend textures, 3d skybox, and water. Its nice, but not great.
Xyos212 Xyos212
Kasperg
Kasperg
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 14:21:34 UTC Post #178228
You mean like what they are doing with Black Mesa:Source?
Bounce
Crossfire
Lambda bunker
etc
Kasperg Kasperg
Seventh-Monkey
Seventh-Monkey
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 14:44:02 UTC Post #178240
OMGCROSSFIRE!!

BM:S :heart: :heart:
Seventh-Monkey Seventh-MonkeyPretty nifty
Jobabob
Jobabob
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-03 14:47:51 UTC Post #178244
ITS GOT CLIFFS that look like they're only 50ft away for some reason
Jobabob Jobabob
AJ
AJ
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 00:15:43 UTC Post #178323
It's just Black Mesa now. Not Black Mesa: Source.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
SpaG
SpaG
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 02:00:36 UTC Post #178328
Well yeah if it's free then you don't have to worry about it. But still they could have put more effort into it.
SpaG SpaG
Xyos212
Xyos212
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 09:10:33 UTC Post #178363
Thats lookin nice! I never knew about Black Mesa Source :(

Will it have custom weapons for HL1 too?
Xyos212 Xyos212
monster_urby
monster_urby
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 10:10:14 UTC Post #178372
Black Mesa FTW!
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
SpaG
SpaG
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 10:18:43 UTC Post #178373
Xyos, it's a HL2 mod...
SpaG SpaG
Captain P
Captain P
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 15:03:21 UTC Post #178427
This last one was really shocking. Point lights and opaque blue water? I thought only n00bs did that!
6 years ago... new technology... deadlines...

We've got a lot more time on our hands to get the most out of an engine, since we don't have deadlines tied to our salary and all. Plus, we're with many mappers, sharing knowledge. Well, you get the idea, you can't simply compare things that easily. ;)
Captain P Captain P
Kasperg
Kasperg
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-04 19:24:07 UTC Post #178456
Crossfire turrets have been changed and there's a 3D skybox:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3329/crossfire0tk.jpg

HLDM:source uses displacement surfaces and blended textures:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5808/bootcamp1ib.jpg

In stalkyard, even physics are involved!
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/747/stalkyard15km.jpg
Kasperg Kasperg
cyanide
cyanide
Posted 18 years ago2006-05-08 19:51:47 UTC Post #179124
just wait for black mesa :D it'l blow this shit out the water
cyanide cyanide
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