Large Hadron Collider: New Crazy Theory Created 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:09:34 UTC by Tito Tito

Created 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:09:34 UTC by Tito Tito

Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:14:42 UTC Post #274610
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The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) has been on a slow repair status since last year after it apparently suffered an "accidental" breakdown. Well, it seems that something very strange is at foot concerning the real cause of last year's breakdown.

This whole thing with the LHC is turning in to a real "X-File" case, according to what some scientists are saying about the reasons it broke down in the first place. I am not going to get in to details here, it's just too fantastic on what they are trying to say.

Once you click on the link and start reading the report, please pay very close attention in particular to the 2nd. paragraph, it's key to the incredible explanation they are giving on what really happened to the LHC:

The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate

Additional source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:27:25 UTC Post #274612
More conspiracy theories? Please.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:28:00 UTC Post #274613
That's strange to say the least, but I'm sure there's a more rational explanation to it than time travelling particles.

I believe in a lot of things, but time travel is one thing I just can't believe. I understand that time isn't linear and can be distorted, but travelling through it, especially backwards? Nah, it just doesn't fly with me :P

Interesting read nontheless, nice find Tito.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:32:39 UTC Post #274614
That's a pretty bold statement to say the very least.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:38:41 UTC Post #274615
While it is a paradox to go back in time and kill your grandfather, physicists agree there is no paradox if you go back in time and save him from being hit by a bus.
I love quantum physics.
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:47:33 UTC Post #274617
While it is a paradox to go back in time and kill your grandfather, physicists agree there is no paradox if you go back in time and save him from being hit by a bus.
Any multiverse theory fixes this problem as well.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 15:55:12 UTC Post #274620
In December, if all goes well, protons will start smashing together in an underground racetrack outside Geneva in a search for forces and particles that reigned during the first trillionth of a second of the Big Bang.
It's not an Anti-mass spectrometer, so I'm not too worried.
Of course, should a resonance cascade happen, that means City 17 will be in Canada.
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:00:44 UTC Post #274622
If you stay and think for a while, you can guess all this naughty playing with unknown facts and science that's not well understood is like a child that plays with matches in a garage with a gasoline wet floor.
I hope the higgs particles will destroy LHC once and for all :D. And then humanity can focus on space traveling which is much more important in our times than playing with dangerous technologies.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:14:29 UTC Post #274623
Fun fact, Striker: The nearest mass outside of the solar system of still hundreds of thousands of lightyears away. For the record that means that, traveling at light speed, it would take hundreds of thousands of years to reach the nearest mass. So there's really no point in developing space travel technology that uses 3D space with masses outside of the solar system in mind.

The only way to get to these distant places [efficiently] is to distort space time or otherwise influence higher dimensions outside of 3D space. And that's one of the many things they're researching with the LHC.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:17:31 UTC Post #274624
It's not about traveling to distant galaxies, it's about moving space. Something like warp-drive.

Nostradamus predicted the future until 3000 an I don't know how much after that, but he also says dangerous things about this experiment.
Let's face it : we don't know what kind of power Nostradamus had, but everything he said turned out to be true.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:23:51 UTC Post #274625
A warp drive would distort space time instead of relying on moving really, really fast through 3D space. And that's what I'm saying, you can only travel through space so fast, but you can move even "faster" if you are able to influence other things.
How do you propose we develop such technologies if we don't... develop them...?
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:24:48 UTC Post #274626
Let's face it : we don't know what kind of power Nostradamus had, but everything he said turned out to be true.
Not really. There's just a bunch of dubious interpretations. To quote Wikipedia:
There is no evidence in the academic literature to suggest that any Nostradamus quatrain has ever been interpreted as predicting a specific event before it occurred, other than in vague, general terms that could equally apply to any number of other events.
ChickenFist ChickenFist<Witty Title>
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:45:26 UTC Post #274627
How do you propose we develop such technologies if we don't... develop them...?
I think our top priority is avoiding risks of damaging our only(yet) home that keeps us alive. Look, the problem is scientists don't have patience. We could have built this LHC on Mars(maybe 10 generations away from us). Sounds stupid ? Who the hell gives those scientists the right of risking our environment ?
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:46:40 UTC Post #274628
I rather not rely on Nostradamu's predictions or their interpretations there of.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 16:52:11 UTC Post #274629
Luck you Tito, I was editing my message.

As I was saying, scientists are trying to do all way to fast and this is bad. We haven't conquered our Solar Sytem yet and we want to travel to other galaxies. Facepalm, actualy the single celestial object that has been walked by man is the moon.

Ok let's put it simple. It's like you're forced by somebody to hammer a nail into your head, in the middle. Chances are the nail won't hit the brain, but those chances are small. The other chance, hitting the brain and provoking instant death are translated as RISKS. So yes, we're all force to take part at this experiment, we either survive or we either face the risks.
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 17:18:34 UTC Post #274633
I don't see why people don't trust those scientists. They have more understanding of what they're doing than the people against the LHC do.
Also, Nostradamus is an idiot.

EDIT: And taking risks is what life is. If we don't sometimes take risks as a whole human population, we'll never advance.

EDIT2: And why not start looking into traveling to other galaxys? Our solar system, as we so far know it, has shit all in it apart from us. If we want to find something interesting out there, we have to go WAY further.
We haven't conquered our Solar Sytem yet
What is there to conquer, really?
Jessie JessieTrans Rights <3
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 17:31:02 UTC Post #274635
Huge balls. Of gas.

Also, they're doing a dangerous experiment in December 2009. (200X)
I only trust them as much as I'd trust G-man.
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 17:47:22 UTC Post #274637
The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate
TONIGHT ON FOX NEWS.. IS THE LHC MOLESTING YOUR CHILDRENS?!
t's like you're forced by somebody to hammer a nail into your head, in the middle. Chances are the nail won't hit the brain, but those chances are small. The other chance, hitting the brain and provoking instant death are translated as RISKS. So yes, we're all force to take part at this experiment, we either survive or we either face the risks.
What on earth makes you think a bad outcome of the experiment is as inevitable as brain damage from a nail hammered into your skull? Also, this being a multi-billion international project and all, do you actually think all those phDs conducting are that helpless, yet willing to push the experiment forward? If the danger of this vaporizing the Solar System were as big as you're depicting, none of it would be funded in the first place. Silly superstitious assumptions are silly.
Daubster DaubsterVault Dweller
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 17:55:13 UTC Post #274638
There's nothing dangerous about the LHC. Do some research before you talk, striker.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 20:04:32 UTC Post #274644
As a well known scientist once said: "Now now, if you follow standard insertion procedures, everything will be fine."

Wait... what? :zomg:
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 20:11:57 UTC Post #274645
To reply, I will repeat:
It's not an Anti-mass spectrometer, so I'm not too worried.
Of course, should a resonance cascade happen, that means City 17 will be in Canada.
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 20:31:17 UTC Post #274646
Nostradamus predicted the future
No he did not. He wrote vague shit down in a journal and let people interpret it how they wanted. If he was truly as awesome as people think he is, he could mention specifics.

If he was so great at 'judicial astrology', then why isn't it a credible source of information today? Even a hobbyist would've stumbled upon it by now if it was a trustworthy source of information.

Superstitious shit is all it is >_>
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 20:40:58 UTC Post #274648
There's nothing dangerous about the LHC.
I agree with you. But as true as that might be, I can't help but to wonder what would happen to me if I would be standing inside the main acceleration tube while the LHC is turned on full power. Would I be turned in to the Hulk?....or in to Dr. Manhattan with blue pennies and all?....or would I just simply be vaporized Star Trek style?

Oh yea, the possibilities are endless......
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 20:46:19 UTC Post #274649
Hopefully nobody will ever find out what it would to do a living being.
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 21:06:20 UTC Post #274650
Okay, if Nostradamus predicted the future correctly, then we can't do shit to stop them from toying with the LHC anyway. If he DIDN'T predict the future, then who the fuck cares anyway? Whatever happens, happens. By intervening we'd only be causing ourselves grief.
Now... shut the fuck up and grab some popcorn!

Also, as far as the break down, shit happens. Do you think if I built a new car from scratch, my own ideas, my own parts, that it'd work the first time around? Maybe, but unlikely.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 21:18:08 UTC Post #274651
That's probably the worst analogy I've ever seen. I'm not even lying.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 23:03:37 UTC Post #274652
What's not dangerous about a proton with 3.5 trillion elections strapped to it? I'd trust these scientists before I trust those biologists harvesting bacteria that will consume every living thing on the planet. Bring on the pretty explosion! I'm in Florida, I may be able to see it as I sweep Canadians from my doorstep.
Rimrook RimrookSince 2003
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 23:32:24 UTC Post #274654
Just in!.....The official date for turning the LHC on full power: December 21, 2012.

Um,....wait a second.

Oh shit!
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-19 23:35:40 UTC Post #274655
What's not dangerous about a proton with 3.5 trillion elections strapped to it?
It's already bad enough once every couple of years...
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-20 00:08:04 UTC Post #274660
Just in!.....The official date for turning the LHC on full power: December 21, 2012.

Um,....wait a second.

Oh shit!
I LOL'd.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 07:14:59 UTC Post #274744
Guys, this is quantum mechanics.......... it's the strangest shit you could ever study. No theory is absurd when it comes to quantum mechanics, but I doubt this one, just to voice an opinion.

Also the nearest mass outside our solar system is a mere 5 or so light years away. Disregarding space junk.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 09:37:43 UTC Post #274748
Well, if you ask me, this technology can't even be utilised into a practical use for the next 500 years AT LEAST!! And if anyone entered that chamber while it was on, they would suffer an immensely painful death as thousands of super-heated particles ripped through your body. You would feel like you were burning from the inside.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 10:38:55 UTC Post #274749
Why would anyone want to enter the tube? Even if it was possible.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 10:41:30 UTC Post #274750
Tito wants to ;)

It's his scheme to turn himself into a superhero/villan
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 12:20:42 UTC Post #274752
I wouldn't want to enter it myself, but I'd pay good money to see Lindsey Lohan being disintegrated
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 13:00:35 UTC Post #274753
Tito wants to

It's his scheme to turn himself into a superhero/villan
Well, I do have delusions of grandeur on becoming "The Leader", as seen in the Hulk comics:
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Can anybody really blame me?
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 15:01:40 UTC Post #274754
Whoa, that guy has a ballsack on his head :|
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 15:11:40 UTC Post #274755
It's worth pointing out that the LHC's operating temperature is 1.9 Kelvin, which is -271.25 Celcius. So if you stepped inside, you'd just freeze.
38_98 38_98Lord
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 15:41:57 UTC Post #274756
This whole theory looks like total publicity stunt bullshit. It sounds like Marty McFly's gonna be going back in time to kill the Large Hardon Collider's boner. This machine has even more dastardly capabilities than first expected: It has the power to turn well respected professionals into shitty science fiction writers.
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 16:04:44 UTC Post #274760
This whole theory looks like total publicity stunt bullshit.
You're right. I believe they accelerate atomic bombs in those tunnels !
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 16:08:38 UTC Post #274761
...

I'm talking about the time-travel theory.

:roll:
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 16:24:47 UTC Post #274762
Really just an excuse for scientists

"Mister Freeman , why haven't you created the Higgs Boson yet?"
"My.. er.. dog ... ate it?"
"Do you expect me to believe it?"
"No.. hah .. because it actually.. er.. goes back in time to .. er.. destroy it self"
"SRSLY WTF?!"
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Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 16:58:19 UTC Post #274763
You're right. I believe they accelerate atomic bombs in those tunnels !
Actually, they ride go-carts in it!
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-23 17:18:51 UTC Post #274764
Hah, +1, Mix.
Daubster DaubsterVault Dweller
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-24 02:15:58 UTC Post #274767
what's the big deal about the big bang anyways? we know it happened so why do we need to re-create it. I don't see how this really helps us. they are probably dead wrong about the bang anyways. all the freaking black holes are going to swallow each other and everything anyways. what then? huh?

what would be screwed up is if they actually do create a black hole in europe. what do you do with that? any safety procedures for this event? we gonna just blast it off into space? people need to stop messing.....
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-24 05:51:56 UTC Post #274769
We think we know what happened, but we don't know "Why", hence the research. And any black hole that might be created (abysmal chance) will be too small to cause any damage, it simply won't have enough mass.

tl;dr: Earth won't be swallowed by a black hole anytime soon
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-24 06:25:24 UTC Post #274770
Yes , Black holes being created IS possible , but like what saribous said , The black hole will only exsist for nanoseconds , and considering it's in a vacuum and has no mass - it'll immediately dissapear.
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Posted 14 years ago2009-10-24 08:02:32 UTC Post #274774
what's the big deal about the big bang anyways? we know it happened so why do we need to re-create it. I don't see how this really helps us. they are probably dead wrong about the bang anyways. all the freaking black holes are going to swallow each other and everything anyways. what then? huh?

what would be screwed up is if they actually do create a black hole in europe. what do you do with that? any safety procedures for this event? we gonna just blast it off into space? people need to stop messing.....
are you trying to be sarcastic, or are you just an idiot?
Posted 14 years ago2009-10-24 08:13:28 UTC Post #274775
Probably a bit of both
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