Some bug-fixing on GoldSource (quite min Created 10 years ago2013-09-22 14:36:08 UTC by ciba43

Hi, I recently picked up Gold Source mapping (after 3 year stop) and I learned a lot. A lot. But I still find 2 problems:

1.Lighting issue. This doesn't interrupt gameplay, but it just doesn't look good. It's gives stripes. Usually on 2 sides.
http://www.bildites.lv/images/tik1fxzi0fzsam3sr6u8.jpg

2. Another issue of lighting. I call it the 'black door' issue. The brush that's touching the wall is black.
http://www.bildites.lv/images/m5n31dcry0rpfyp8yg9b.jpg

Btw, I am using ZHLT. It could be the problem, but I switched about 5 other Zhlt builds and custom builds.

If anyone knows the answers, say it

1. You should get VHLT (V30): http://forums.svencoop.com/showthread.php?p=488683#post488683 It's the best compilation toolset for GoldSource currently available. It has some new entities, one of them being a brush entity designed for detail brushwork, func_detail.
You can consider light fixtures like the one in your image as detail brushes. You should turn those into func_detail (see first issue). That ugly line, known as face splitting, which is caused by two solid brushes touching each other, should go away.

2. What's the initial position of that door, open or closed?

http://twhl.info/forums.php?thread=17830
VHLT has many fixes for lightning.
For more information:
http://forums.svencoop.com/forumdisplay.php/217-Vluzacn-s-Map-Compile-Tools

for the lamp, convert it to func_detail (VHLT only)
The thing with the door is really old. I don't know if VHLT has a built-in fix for this, but if not then putting a light inside the door-brush should light all faces of the brush.

Edit: aaaah, too slow ^^

the lamp can be fixed by dropping the lamp 1unit down or make it a func_wall

the door "start open" angle down that fix it

well, I will switch to Vhlt, cause it will only take few seconds

Gonna try the door fix.

Edit:
I started mapping as a CS1.6 mapper. Every forums about the game said the Zhlt is the best. Well, guess they were wrong.

Zoners was the best. But new ones pop up every now and again

Oh, and I hope none of you had problems with the host of the pics. It's kinda the fastest and easiest for me to use.

The map that had the problems is now having major remake, but I had other similar maps that I will try to compile.

PS. I have 2 Pc's. This one is the Net one and the other is the PlayGames, MakeGames one. When I will get to it, I will try Vhlt. Sounds good.

Edit:
It fixed the light issue http://www.bildites.lv/images/01nu5hohp9fdu2acy31k.jpg

but the door is still black http://www.bildites.lv/images/zqp5f3n0z7w1flpb1g.jpg

And the compile time increased a lot. From about 1, 2 mins to 5 mins.

I think the door is black because it's spawning in the closed position so no light is hitting that surface.

So if you've already tried having the door spawn open first (so light will hit it) try the following parameters:

Minimum light level - set it to a brightness value (maybe 10?) It seems to me like there is 0 light getting to that face. Any value above zero will prevent the texture from being black. Any light cast on that object greater than the minimum light level will behave normally.

Light Origin Target - possibly have a separate light (with a name) close to the door and have the door get its lighting information from that specific light.

I haven't tried this but i would think the minimum light level would be your best bet to get rid of that blackness.

Also, your compile times probably increased due to the better quality of the compile tools.

Well, I tested that Min light level and came to a conclusion - 10 is too much. The door is very bright. Almost self emmiting light.

http://www.bildites.lv/images/rfrfxo71lkc60cx0a74r.jpg

Gonna try a lover value, but it fixed it (kinda). So thanks. I will still need to find the perfect value for it, but still, thanks.

In this picture:
http://www.bildites.lv/images/01nu5hohp9fdu2acy31k.jpg

...are you using a pointlight? You shouldn't.

Oh, forgot about that. I have many compile tools and the last ones I used, didn't had the lights.rad file. Totally forgot about that. I think Vhlt had this file working properly.

Well, I tested that Min light level and came to a conclusion - 10 is too much. The door is very bright. Almost self emmiting light.

The values for Minimum Light Level actually range from 0 to 1, so try setting it to like 0.1 or so.

I will compile it when I get to that computer.

EDIT: Compiled it, came to a conclusion - it's the same as 10. So, now I will need to look for the perfect value.

It's also pretty interesting, how Valve did this using very old compile tools. Kinda amazing, isn't it?