TWHL4 Discussion / Bug Reports
Created 6 years ago2018-06-02 04:57:09 UTC by
Penguinboy
Created 6 years ago2018-06-02 04:57:09 UTC by
Penguinboy
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 04:57:09 UTC
Post #339755
Welcome to TWHL4! Please post any issues or bug reports in this thread.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 08:14:08 UTC
Post #339756
Wow! Good to finally see the new site being properly deployed. Good job!
There are still a few bugs, though. If you click on the "Some time ago" text on journals on the main page, you will still be taken to the journal, even though the date shows up.
Also, teeny tiny nitpick, but...
...there is still a one pixel overlap on the text at the top of the shoutbox.
Keep up the good work, and I hope your arm gets better!
There are still a few bugs, though. If you click on the "Some time ago" text on journals on the main page, you will still be taken to the journal, even though the date shows up.
Also, teeny tiny nitpick, but...
Keep up the good work, and I hope your arm gets better!
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 08:19:56 UTC
Post #339757
Hey, congrats for the new site. Just saying. I won't point out the issues before expressing how great it is. That's how I vibe. ; )
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 08:23:34 UTC
Post #339758
I thought I fixed that pixel, Dr. Orange. I can't see it in Firefox or Chrome, which browser are you using? Just to be safe try Ctrl+F5 to reload the styles from the server too.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 09:01:52 UTC
Post #339760
I don't seem to be able to change the uploaded files for my maps. Attempting to upload a new file brings up a "Whoops, looks like something went wrong." page.
File is not problematic, I successfully made the same edit on the beta site (before it was the actual site). I also tried a blank .zip file and had the same result. Other edits to the vault item that I tried ("files included", description) appear to function as expected.
(I know you know, but for the record, I am doing this through the twhl-beta.info url, just in case that changes anything.)
Also, I can see that pixel Dr. Orange mentions. Using Firefox, have Ctrl+F5'd.
File is not problematic, I successfully made the same edit on the beta site (before it was the actual site). I also tried a blank .zip file and had the same result. Other edits to the vault item that I tried ("files included", description) appear to function as expected.
(I know you know, but for the record, I am doing this through the twhl-beta.info url, just in case that changes anything.)
Also, I can see that pixel Dr. Orange mentions. Using Firefox, have Ctrl+F5'd.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 09:18:10 UTC
Post #339761
Seems to work fine on Chrome Android, nice job ^^
Is there a "time limit" when you update your profile? Because first time I tried the changes were not applied, it worked on second try tho.
Is there a "time limit" when you update your profile? Because first time I tried the changes were not applied, it worked on second try tho.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 09:31:52 UTC
Post #339762
@Jessie: Try again now, thanks for the bug report. I had to set up file permissions on the server.
@Shepard: Yes, there's a CSRF token which will reset if your session times out. It sometimes causes that issue, if it starts happening a lot I might just disable it for some of the pages (e.g. forums, comments, shoutbox, etc don't really need to be protected)
@Jessie/Orange: I just made another fix that should hopefully stop the nefarious pixel, try reloading again.
@Shepard: Yes, there's a CSRF token which will reset if your session times out. It sometimes causes that issue, if it starts happening a lot I might just disable it for some of the pages (e.g. forums, comments, shoutbox, etc don't really need to be protected)
@Jessie/Orange: I just made another fix that should hopefully stop the nefarious pixel, try reloading again.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 12:57:45 UTC
Post #339763
Where is the chat?! ;'( 
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 13:01:18 UTC
Post #339764
The Shoutbox is at the bottom right on desktop, just bottom on mobile.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 13:12:38 UTC
Post #339765
Oh hey, you boys finally made it public. For a second I thought 'have we been hacked?' No, it's just the new site design. It's a little bit of getting used to, but that's fine. Not sure how I feel about the Shoutbox being on the right, is there a way to move it to the left side of the page? It looks like that should be possible as the Shoutbox is a separate... thing, it isn't attached or isn't part of the main layout.
Other than that, congrats on finally making the dang thing public.
Let's go back in time and take a look at how TWHL looked like on June 8 2003: Fire up the timemachine
Other than that, congrats on finally making the dang thing public.
Let's go back in time and take a look at how TWHL looked like on June 8 2003: Fire up the timemachine
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 13:29:35 UTC
Post #339766
<Insert R.I.P. TWHL v3 memes here>
A part of me want to write tutorials about GoldSrc programming in the wiki ^^
A part of me want to write tutorials about GoldSrc programming in the wiki ^^
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 13:31:00 UTC
Post #339767
I prefer more the 2003 design, is more simple and easier to understand it.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 13:34:37 UTC
Post #339768
@Muzz: I could probably make a little options panel so you could move the shoutbox to the other side, I'll see what I can do.
@Shepard: Goldsource programming has always been very under-resourced, so tutorials would be welcome!
@Shepard: Goldsource programming has always been very under-resourced, so tutorials would be welcome!
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 13:42:42 UTC
Post #339769
That'd be great, Penguin, I just got shoutboxbombed by Jesse while typing that shoutbox post.
Edit: Already love the new formatting options.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 14:04:01 UTC
Post #339770
This is gonna take some getting used to, but I'm glad it's here.
JeffMOD Approved!
JeffMOD Approved!
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 14:40:31 UTC
Post #339772
Got a few other nitpicks about the shoutbox. You can't see exact date and times on shoutbox messages like you can with everything else. Also, when the shoutbox updates and it's open, it automaticly scrolls down to the latest message, which can be a bit annoying when reading through previous messages.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 17:57:21 UTC
Post #339773
Hi! I checked my PMs and found a lot of old messages which I sent years ago. Old site didn't let me see them. So I want to delete them, but I can only delete 1 message at once. This isn't handy. Please add checkboxes to delete several messages at once. Thanks. By the way, I was shocked by new look of the site. And now it doesn't work correctly in old Opera 
(though I can accept this).
(though I can accept this).
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 18:04:43 UTC
Post #339775
Thanks for all the hard work you have put into the website over the years!
I miss the list of recently active users.
I miss the list of recently active users.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 22:51:39 UTC
Post #339779
@Orange: You can hover over the "x minutes ago" text to get the exact time, though admittedly that doesn't work on mobile.
@Qwertyus: I didn't test on Opera since it's using the same rendering engine as Chrome... unless you're using the old version of Opera? I don't plan to support old browsers.
@potatis: I wonder where that list could go. Maybe in "members"? I don't really want to fit it on every page...
@Qwertyus: I didn't test on Opera since it's using the same rendering engine as Chrome... unless you're using the old version of Opera? I don't plan to support old browsers.
@potatis: I wonder where that list could go. Maybe in "members"? I don't really want to fit it on every page...
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 22:55:23 UTC
Post #339780
@Penguinboy: Members would be a logical place, yes. I also think it would fit okay below the wiki edits on the front page.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-02 23:50:41 UTC
Post #339781
That's a good idea, I'll add it in at some point.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 04:45:16 UTC
Post #339782
It's not possible to see any image in the tutorial in the wiki section of the website.
There is a "Image Not Found"
There is a "Image Not Found"
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 09:39:56 UTC
Post #339783
@Pouli: Thanks for letting me know, I have fixed the tutorial images.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 10:14:30 UTC
Post #339784
hey!
can u tell me where is shoutbox? ^_^
can u tell me where is shoutbox? ^_^
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 10:15:07 UTC
Post #339785
TWHL looks nice and works well.
But I am here to vouch for removing the auto-locking of threads. People coming here with complicated projects that need a few months between updates find their threads locked after 90 days. And then you are naturally hesitant to open up a new thread just to continue the original thread - which has the feeling of using the forum wrong or posting unwelcome spam.
I found this thread recently and wanted to post my appreciation, but I couldn't: https://twhl.info/thread/view/19432
Likewise, I've posted about my own stuff here long ago where there was a lot of work involved for little attention. A normal update to the respective thread couldn't be made later on and I didn't want to bother the community with new dead thread stubs.
The merit of autolocking is that you don't have to deal with necro-bumps, but as it's configured now, I'm convinced that this downside outweighs the hassle occasional moderation of an unjustified bump greatly. It would be great of the timeout was removed or bumped up to at least a year.
Thanks for all the work you've invested.
But I am here to vouch for removing the auto-locking of threads. People coming here with complicated projects that need a few months between updates find their threads locked after 90 days. And then you are naturally hesitant to open up a new thread just to continue the original thread - which has the feeling of using the forum wrong or posting unwelcome spam.
I found this thread recently and wanted to post my appreciation, but I couldn't: https://twhl.info/thread/view/19432
Likewise, I've posted about my own stuff here long ago where there was a lot of work involved for little attention. A normal update to the respective thread couldn't be made later on and I didn't want to bother the community with new dead thread stubs.
The merit of autolocking is that you don't have to deal with necro-bumps, but as it's configured now, I'm convinced that this downside outweighs the hassle occasional moderation of an unjustified bump greatly. It would be great of the timeout was removed or bumped up to at least a year.
Thanks for all the work you've invested.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 10:49:35 UTC
Post #339786
@ninja defuse: bottom right
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 10:56:14 UTC
Post #339787
@Shrinker: Thanks for the feedback, but TWHL3 previously locked old threads after 3 months as well. At the moment you can contact an admin (just ask in the shoutbox) and somebody will unlock and old thread. I think you do raise a good point about extending the dead-thread time limit though. I'll extend it when I get the time, and monitor how it goes.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-03 12:03:30 UTC
Post #339788
Maybe you could build in some way to flag certain admin-only things, like thread-revival requests and name-change requests.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 01:22:17 UTC
Post #339803
I don't like how map vault entries no longer tell you the date at which a given map was uploaded, like it did with TWHL3:
I know, a minor nitpick. But sometimes even the smallest change can be an annoyance. Any chance of bringing it back? Perhaps combine it with the current method:
Created 21st October, 2006 (11 years ago)
Updated 8th August, 2013 (4 years ago)
Or something similar.
Created 21st October, 2006 (11 years ago)
Updated 8th August, 2013 (4 years ago)
Or something similar.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 02:32:59 UTC
Post #339804
"I don't like how map vault entries no longer tell you the date at which a given map was uploaded, like it did with TWHL3"
Click on the date. It expands from "X years ago" to the exact date.
Click on the date. It expands from "X years ago" to the exact date.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 03:16:35 UTC
Post #339805
As long as we're on the topic, some of those toggleable timestamps are also part of the links to the things they represent. That is, if you click on the timestamp to see the exact time something was posted, you will also click on the item itself and thus the page changes, which generally is not what you would want. This is true for maps when you are browsing the map vault, and the front page journals and wiki edits. There could well be more, but those are the ones I've noticed.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 10:23:57 UTC
Post #339806
I love the new design. Best of all, we all had plenty of opportunity to contribute ideas toward the new site during the soft opening.
Kudos to all the hard work! Long live TWHL!
I can't believe that I have been a member for so long.
Kudos to all the hard work! Long live TWHL!
I can't believe that I have been a member for so long.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 13:17:20 UTC
Post #339808
I just found out that clicking on a profile picture in the shoutbox (not the name, but the actual picture itself) leads to this 404 page: https://twhl.info/%7B%7Buser.url%7D%7D
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 13:32:59 UTC
Post #339809
Thanks, that's fixed now.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 22:50:15 UTC
Post #339810
I don't know how important it is, but when you look at Atom's post history the earliest ones aren't in the correct order.
https://twhl.info/index.php/post/index?user=1&page=4
https://twhl.info/index.php/post/index?user=1&page=4
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 23:16:56 UTC
Post #339811
They seem to be in the right order for me, unless I’m missing something.
Edit: Oh, post number. I was looking at date/time.
Edit: Oh, post number. I was looking at date/time.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 23:18:56 UTC
Post #339812
They're sorted by date rather than ID number, so I'm guessing there's some oddities with the really old data that causes that to happen.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 23:31:38 UTC
Post #339813
I like how on mobile the new maps section of the main page is its own scrolly bit to fit the four on there, but - and maybe this is just my exact phone - it’s not immediately obvious that there are more than two maps there. I don’t know how you indicate that it’s a scrolly bit, just that it probably should.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-04 23:52:55 UTC
Post #339814
I could probably do something for that, I'll try it out later.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-05 06:46:56 UTC
Post #339816
But where is the shoutbox?
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-05 11:27:26 UTC
Post #339817
There's some text cut-off issues with the journals at some window sizes.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-05 15:08:05 UTC
Post #339818
I propose moving the Active Users module above the Journals and Wiki Edits modules.
It makes more sense to me that way.
It makes more sense to me that way.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-05 23:49:24 UTC
Post #339822
Oh no, I disagree. That doesn't seem like an element that needs to be that prominent. It's nice that it's there, but it's not what you come to the site to see.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-06 11:48:17 UTC
Post #339823
I'd probably change the h1 tags in your _headings.scss to 18px because they're quite big (or maybe try a h3 tag?)
The 'see all' button I wouldn't have as white/blue because its not a very good contrast against the orange theme (maybe have the background as a darker orange, #a57022, foreground #fff and get rid of the border. Maybe hover background a darker orange again?)
I could do a review and make a list of css changes I think would be good, if you like PB but I don't want to rain on your parade either if you've deliberately set it like this, so just say
The 'see all' button I wouldn't have as white/blue because its not a very good contrast against the orange theme (maybe have the background as a darker orange, #a57022, foreground #fff and get rid of the border. Maybe hover background a darker orange again?)
I could do a review and make a list of css changes I think would be good, if you like PB but I don't want to rain on your parade either if you've deliberately set it like this, so just say
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-06 12:17:47 UTC
Post #339824
I'm open to suggestions since I'm definitely crap at design, but I think the size of the h1 headings is fine in this case. I don't really want them any smaller.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-06 17:46:23 UTC
Post #339825
Can you only use WAD include with nem's batch compiler?
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-06 20:34:03 UTC
Post #339826
URBY BLUE APPROVAL FOR TWHL4
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-10 18:51:57 UTC
Post #339867
"New In The Vault" panel on the front page also displays recently updated vault submissions. The problem comes if a bunch of maps are updated at once, it floods out actual new maps on the front page. I just updated all of my maps to have a CC license (now that you can set that in the vault) and at the same time was unknowingly flooding out all of the new maps (including my own newest map) on the front page.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-10 19:49:33 UTC
Post #339868
I noticed that too, but I quite liked all my maps showing on the homepage, so I didn't say anything.
Posted 6 years ago2018-06-10 20:06:31 UTC
Post #339869
At the very least, my new map is back on top because I realized we can finally add more screenshots and I messed up a file path that led to a missing model error and had to reupload it. Luckily it only got downloaded once from each of the 3 places it's uploaded and one of those downloaders is the one that noted the problem.
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