Open for TWHL3 Suggestions Created 11 years ago2007-12-09 03:49:11 UTC by Penguinboy Penguinboy

Created 11 years ago2007-12-09 03:49:11 UTC by Penguinboy Penguinboy

Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 03:49:11 UTC Post #240332
Well, with TWHL3 just around several corners, i'll be taking all sensible TWHL3 suggestions. (functional suggestions, not about what it looks like.)

Currently, the topic of consideration is the forum. Are there any extra features you'd like in the forums? anything that needs fixing?

take note that already we have:
-posting redirects straight away to the thread it was posted at
-similar with thread posting, thread editing (for mods), and post editing.
-image stretching has been stopped

if nobody has any suggestions we'll move onto tutorials and map vault.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 03:53:23 UTC Post #240333
having BBCode buttons in the reply box would be nice. I imagine there are some people who are inexperienced (although to them it's not hard to learn), but it's nice to have a button to click to put in a thumbnail, rather than typing it all out.
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 04:01:09 UTC Post #240334
thats a good start. ant wanted me to add these too, so i'll see what i can steal from other sites do
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 05:36:04 UTC Post #240337
When you're editing a message, you really need to have all the emoticons on that page too. It really doesn't do, having to open another tab, go to the forums, and copy the smiley code over. :zonked:

Also, we're going to have emoticons in the map vault, right? If not, we should.
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 06:22:01 UTC Post #240339
already there and yes :)
keep 'em coming.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 07:18:05 UTC Post #240344
Man, as if we don't have enough work already. :P
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 07:55:07 UTC Post #240347
(I believe this has been proposed before, but just to make sure...)

A better pageing system.
The one we have now sucks.

There should be a last page and a first page button
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 07:56:59 UTC Post #240348
Already done. Btw, if you click the little arrow next to the user name on the thread index, it'll go to the last page.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 07:59:55 UTC Post #240350
Will you be able to edit older posts than the last one?
Because it can be a bit frustrating sometimes.

And it would be really usefull being able to edit the topic post, like when you have a todo list for example.
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 08:07:23 UTC Post #240353
older posts, no.
topic post, possible.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 08:10:38 UTC Post #240354
Topic post editing = yes, but they'll go through a forum mod first before the changes are made live (this is in line with how tutorial proposals and submissions now work).

Editing the last post will also cause the thread to automatically bump itself (the current problem with editing the last post is that the rest of the community isn't alerted to the fact that it's been edited, unlike when you post something new).
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 08:27:09 UTC Post #240357
Sounds good to me

Great work guys
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 08:38:15 UTC Post #240358
fyi, I drew up some dots and stuff.

I'm important.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 09:16:26 UTC Post #240367
I still wanna see this in TWHL3:
User posted image
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 09:18:13 UTC Post #240369
If we can technically do it, then we will.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 09:36:19 UTC Post #240372
FAIL
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 11:09:47 UTC Post #240385
ok....ignoring that.

I know it hasn't been long, but the magic bbcode buttons are done.

editing the first post will not be done until i get code done to alert admins they they have to check an edit.

bumping after an edit is another story. will be tricky, if not impossible to do without changing the original time of the post.

and muzz.....i've seen that at least three times before, and you'll be happy to hear that no code at all has been done for the user profiles. :^_^:
but most likely it'll be in there.

still taking suggestions for the forums. so far they've all been great ideas.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 11:16:40 UTC Post #240386
a [quote=Penguinboy] tag perhaps? I've seen it on a few other forums..

Basically says "Quote from Penguinboy" in the
quotebox
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 11:23:17 UTC Post #240389
Agreed, that would make things easier at some points
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 14:53:33 UTC Post #240396
I dont know if you guys are going to keep the post box / smiley layout the same, But if you put the BBcode to the left of the "Post" button. It could even out with the smileys.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 15:38:14 UTC Post #240400
Assuming we have the physical space for it, a Model and Texture Vault!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 16:52:06 UTC Post #240406
I said to penguin last night.. there could be accomplice competition awards.. heh

In the event a few people want to collaboratively make a competition entry, they all get shared glory.. So, rather than a single person getting the first place award, all of them get "first place shared" awards.

This is a bit optional I guess.. but it might encourage compo entries from those too "eh?" about their mapping to make an entry on their own..
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-09 17:07:50 UTC Post #240407
...And a password protected warez vault!

...Or maybe not :(
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 09:22:00 UTC Post #240472
last call for forum suggestions. all suggestions so far have been added or already have been added, and the two that haven't ([quote=person] and topic editing) will be done in time.

last call, the forums will be declared complete soon.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 10:17:43 UTC Post #240479
Forums are very sexy right now, I must say. Functionality and whatnot has gone right up.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 10:38:45 UTC Post #240481
Next up on the suggestion list: the Map Vault. Currently, the MV index page and the Map index pages have been completed, as well as the new submission form.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 10:54:32 UTC Post #240487
I would say I'd race you in building a site since I got mine to do, but you got a huge lead already.

Can the Individual map earn awards like the MotM. The way it looks now, you can only earn a MotM once. Its just a thought.
User posted image
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 11:44:24 UTC Post #240491
MOTM system will completely different in TWHL3. votes will not be made, the MOTM will be judged by the rating of the map in the vault. maps get the awards instead of the user, but it will be acknowledged in some way in the user profile, but not in the form of a big award, because the user is allowed to get more than one MOTM.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 12:05:47 UTC Post #240492
Cross-PC login remembering?

I often log in from either OS, and it treats theses as two separate computers, meaning I need to log in again every time I switch from one to the other, and then when I switch back as well.

It's not really important, I just think it would be nice.

:ciggie: :plastered: :^_^:
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 12:07:36 UTC Post #240493
Sound likes a good system, given that the ratings can be done honest enough.

(No one noticed my Eli Vance smiley :( )
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 12:24:29 UTC Post #240494
That's Eli? :x

Blitz: That's been on the cards for years, so yeah, it'll be here. :P

Map view page is about 80% done, design wise. Overall, the Map Vault design is around about 70-80% done, it just needs PHP now.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 12:30:18 UTC Post #240495
It tried to be eli.

Speaking of the Vaults, Yay or Nay on the Model Vault?
Rimrook RimrookGoldsource Guru
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 12:33:39 UTC Post #240497
May?

(For maybe).
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 17:32:35 UTC Post #240512
Yay for texture vault then too? (you could merge model & texture vaults into one custom content or resource vault)
Daubster DaubsterVault Dweller
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 18:35:29 UTC Post #240523
Limit logins to once every 24 hour cycle? (for TWHL3)
Because i sometimes rack up 3-4 (per day - maybe even more) logins because i have to occasionally check tuts or just browse the forums when bored.
And i auto-log in.

As for the 'Resource Vault'
It should have the same Size limitations as the map vault. I.E.: If over.. 1mb, outsource to remote download..

Map vault : sort by map type, Sort by user, Sort by date, rating, Editable MV comments. Limit one rating per user.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 19:59:54 UTC Post #240530
Disable rating until download link has been clicked.

Im sick of posts like "IT LOOKS DARK 4 STARS LOL"

It's fucking with the ratings when dumbasses don't actually PLAY the map.
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 20:16:26 UTC Post #240531
I think what tetsuo meant was not just making it so you can only log in once, but that it's only counted once a day. (I think? Makes more sense.)
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 20:36:34 UTC Post #240532
yeah. sorry for the confusion.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-10 20:56:07 UTC Post #240533
Biltzkrieg, that'd be a great idea, but there's no way to implement a system like that unless you make map downloads unavailable to people who aren't signed up to TWHL. Because if you weren't logged in when you downloaded the map, then what, are you going to just be forced to download it a second time to review it?

About Tetsu0's idea though... I really don't like it. I don't think it should be counted as a login if you're already logged in and you open TWHL, the way it is now, but people may actually log in more than once per day. The other problem with his idea is that everybody's "Logins (per day)" would drop to 1...

I think it should be a counter of how many times the person has physically typed their username and password in and hit enter, not how many times each day they happen to visit the site.
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:07:17 UTC Post #240552
Then what about the auto login system?
: Eh i dunno. But my logins have skyrocketed since i started mapping more frequently.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:14:34 UTC Post #240554
TWHL's current cookie system is entirely flawed, so we're gonna be looking at how to count logins.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:18:17 UTC Post #240556
So... that'll hopefully be the antidote to this problem? Or.. somewhat?
I dont even know if it's really a problem. But i logged like.. 1500 logins in a year. Personally, for not logging in every day, i think that's steep.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:29:03 UTC Post #240559
Well, login counting is fairly trivial at best anyway. I've ammased over 6500 since 2003, which isn't a lot considering some of the other members here.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:33:02 UTC Post #240562
I check in regularly, and have therefore accumlated 2000 in slightly more than a year...
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:47:10 UTC Post #240568
with the new TWHL3 cookie system i've already created, it will:
-remember over multiple computers
-never log you out by mistake
-if you've spent ages writing a huge post and timed out of the login, it'll log you back in and post without throwing an error and annoying the hell outta you
-only be deleted if you log out or change your password
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:52:08 UTC Post #240569
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 00:57:39 UTC Post #240571
Back to map vault suggestions please. btw, theres absolutely no way of making sure the user clicked the download button, as srry explained. also forcing users to login before downloading the map is annoying, and the only method of forcing downloads before rating is slow and clumsy.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 01:13:43 UTC Post #240574
Yah.

I'm hoping the MV Mods will be a little more proactive with their work in the new Vault, which should weed out those kinds of ratings. Besides, you know that you can't rate without posting a comment, so it should be easy to see what's going on.

Update: New map vault code is currently being implemented within my design.

Keep in mind guys that TWHL3 is completely new: there's not one trace of the old PHP in there at all, not even Seventh-Monkey's more recent additions to the site (i.e. Mercutio). The only thing we're using is the existing databases and I believe we've made changes to that as well.
AJ AJGlorious Overlord
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-11 10:47:44 UTC Post #240622
WOW! :ciggie:
New stuff!
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 11 years ago2007-12-13 09:41:32 UTC Post #240819
Taking final suggestions for map vault and tutorial systems. they'll both be ready (fully coded) in the next few days, and now is the time i can easily implement new code....

just a progress update:
forums: 99%
tutorials: 70%
map vault: 70%

hurry up and suggest or the system will be exactly the same!
suggestions for map vault or tutorials only at this time please.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
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