having a bit of a problem Created 18 years ago2005-09-09 07:47:09 UTC by Ansith

im new to halflife mapping and when i try to make a cube with the "in the begginning" tutorial i try to compile and i wait for a long time and it only ever says executing......
and doesnt start could someone help me please?

With this sort of problem we need more detail.

What version of Hammer/Worldcraft are you using.

What exactly does the compile window say.

(and since its your first map) What have you done in the map so far?

ok the thingo says this

** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: D:SIERRAHalf-Life

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "D:Program FilesValve Hammer Editormapstest map.map" "test map.map"

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: -dev -console +map "test map"

and stays like that
i think im using 3.4

EDIT: ive only put like a light and the starting point in thats all it told me to do

Ok.

Have you set up all the directories correctly on this menu?

ill just have a look at it

it was fine dident do nothing to it

You're not running any compile program and you're copying a file with game startup parameters...

Basically, you didn't configure your compile options correctly. Follow this tutorial and you should be able to compile maps just fine.

test map.map

Make it test_map.map not test map.map. Can't have any empty spaces in your map names...

Ansith, btw, are you a Secret Shopper?

You can have spaces in map names, but it's best to avoid them, yes.

secret shopper?

You can have spaces in map names, but they won't run thru console or thru run. :

ive had a look at the tutorial and it doesnt help
and srry if im being to much trouble with this

but they won't run thru console or thru run. unsure - :

map "map name" does the job, map map name doesn't work.

Anyway, how did you configure your Hammer options, especially those in the Build Programs tab?

ill just show you in a sec

build thing is empty for some reason???
game config looks all fine yea thats all the thing told me to put stuff in

Fill build in with the respective exe files. hlrad, hlvis, hlbsp and hlcsg. Make sure to get Zoner's tools first and extract them wherever, usually the tools folder in the hammer dir.

oh ok, thanks.

ok somthing happend hopefully its good :

** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: D:SIERRAHalf-Life

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "D:Program FilesValve Hammer Editormapstest_map.map" "test_map.map"

** Executing...
** Command: D:hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "test_map"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
--- BEGIN hlcsg ---
Command line: D:hlcsg.exe test_map
Entering test_map.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
--------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
50%... (0.01 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.01 seconds)
CSGBrush:
50%... (0.05 seconds)

Using Wadfile: sierrahalf-lifevalvehalflife.wad

• Contains 1 used texture, 100.00 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)

Texture usage is at 0.00 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
0.25 seconds elapsed

--- END hlcsg ---

** Executing...
** Command: D:hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "test_map"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
--- BEGIN hlbsp ---
Command line: D:hlbsp.exe test_map

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)

BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'test_map.prt'
Warning: No entities exist in hull 1, no filling performed for this hull
Warning: No entities exist in hull 2, no filling performed for this hull
0.08 seconds elapsed

--- END hlbsp ---

** Executing...
** Command: D:hlvis.exe
** Parameters: "test_map"

hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
--- BEGIN hlvis ---
Command line: D:hlvis.exe test_map
1 portalleafs
0 numportals

= Current hlvis Settings =
Name | Setting | Default
------------------|-----------|------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max vis distance [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

fast vis [ off ] [ off ]
full vis [ off ] [ off ]

BasePortalVis:
(0.00 seconds)
LeafThread:
(0.00 seconds)
average leafs visible: 1
g_visdatasize:3 compressed from 1
0.01 seconds elapsed

--- END hlvis ---

** Executing...
** Command: D:hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "test_map"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
--- BEGIN hlrad ---
Command line: D:hlrad.exe test_map

= Current hlrad Settings =
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|---------------------|------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]
oversampling (-extra)[ off ] [ off ]
bounces [ 1 ] [ 1 ]
ambient light [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ] [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ]
maximum light [ 255.000 ] [ 256.000 ]
circus mode [ off ] [ off ]

smoothing threshold [ 50.000 ] [ 50.000 ]
direct threshold [ 25.000 ] [ 25.000 ]
direct light scale [ 2.000 ] [ 2.000 ]
coring threshold [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
patch interpolation [ on ] [ on ]

texscale [ on ] [ on ]
patch subdividing [ on ] [ on ]
chop value [ 64.000 ] [ 64.000 ]
texchop value [ 32.000 ] [ 32.000 ]

global fade [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global falloff [ 2 ] [ 2 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ] [ 1.000 1.000 1.000 ]
global gamma [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ] [ 0.500 0.500 0.500 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global sky diffusion [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]

opaque entities [ on ] [ on ]
sky lighting fix [ on ] [ on ]
incremental [ off ] [ off ]
dump [ off ] [ off ]

colour jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
monochromatic jitter [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
softlight hack [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ] [ 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 ]
diffuse hack [ on ] [ on ]
spotlight points [ on ] [ on ]

custom shadows with bounce light

[               off ] [               off ]

rgb transfers [ off ] [ off ]

6 faces
Create Patches : 0 base patches
0 opaque faces
0 square feet [0.00 square inches]
1 direct lights

BuildFacelights:
50%... (0.00 seconds)
visibility matrix : 0.0 megs
Warning: Attempting to allocate 0 bytes
BuildVisLeafs:
(0.00 seconds)
MakeScales:
(0.01 seconds)
SwapTransfers:
(0.01 seconds)
Transfer Lists : 0 transfers

Indices :           0 bytes
Indices :           0 bytes

Bounce 1 GatherLight:
(0.00 seconds)
FinalLightFace:
50%... (0.00 seconds)
1.35 seconds elapsed

--- END hlrad ---

** Executing...
** Command: D:hlrad.exe
** Parameters: -dev -console +map "test_map"

submit what?

Everything seems fine (though it seems you haven't put entities in the map?), but this line is wrong:

** Executing...
** Command: D:hlrad.exe
** Parameters: -dev -console +map "test_map"

You should start Half-Life with those parameters, not hlrad. Check in your configuration if you filled in the Game Executable in the Build Programs tab correctly. It should point to your Half-Life exe.

Jimmi, I don't think that he should submit the first cube he made... :

lol

ok cause that was 1 of the things i dident fill in cause i dident no what to put in there

test_map cannot be found on server

this is great it dident make a BSP file

Make sure you're not placing the .bsp in the wrong folder. It should go to the half-life/valve/maps folder.

how do i make sure it like goes in there or what ever it does?????

Check your configuration, you can say where to put the finished maps. Just direct that to your half-life/valve/maps folder.

ok i found it it should work now thanks alot everyone who helped me
and hopefully ill make a good map soon

Good luck with that..

Warning: No entities exist in hull 1, no filling performed for this hull
Warning: No entities exist in hull 2, no filling performed for this hull

hello? Why have people missed this error?

You should add a light_entity and an info_player_start entity in your map... Or else it won't work properly.. :

(though it seems you haven't put entities in the map?)

The error wasn't missed, but since he's following the beginners tutorial series, he should learn to place entities along the way anyway.

Captain P pointed it out. Strange that there was no error for hull 0, though.

im having more troubles now i dont know if its to do with the entitys but when im doing the "in the beginning2" when i try to link 2 rooms up with a hall (ive tryed many times to do this) the textures dont come up insife the rooms or the hall doesnt come up and heres my favorite one info_player_start doesnt exist in the map when ive put one in

Can you compile and run the In the Beginning 2 example map okay?

You've apparently got several problems. Break your work up into small steps, checking that everything you've so far is okay. If you run into a problem, don't add anything further until what you have compiles and runs, including lights, textures, etc.

For instance:

Create a room with an info_player_start and a light. Compile without running and look for errors. Only when you have no compile errors should you run the game. When you have the errors fixed, compile and run.

Create a second separate room without the hallway in between. Compile, check for errors and run.

Add the hallway between the rooms without making the doorway cutouts. Compile, check for errors and run.

Do the doorway cutouts. Compile, check for errors and run.

the textures dont come up insife the rooms

Are you talking about in Hammer, or HL?

i made it run but how do u make the door cutouts proply i made some but it got rid of the whole wall with the hall conecting to it

dont worry i made it (finally)