"Buttons don't work... unless you make it so they trigger when you touch them"

You mean they don't work using the E button? It should be easy to make the cameras togglable, I'll try it with my entry too and get back to you.

HaHa much better but maybe slowing the water to activate the next sequence, and panning out to show the nice "finger-pusher machine" would be prudent. (make the room a little bigger so you can pan behind it)

The different angles are nice, but you could always refine and even get fancy with cams on trains, but I've never done that. Also, turn the piano around or turn the cam so you can see the nice piano from the front. (you could also put the piano at an angle to make it look more realistic.

Excellent stuff, but as alwasy room for more win! Keep it up! = )

Also btw, you could easily include them both in one bsp, just have a little movie camera icon and a button to toggle (no sense doing 2 seperate maps imo)

Yeah me too.

A lot of them use a single or couple balls that go through the entire thing I've noticed, but this is by no means necessary.

I looked through the some of the old original comics and you can really use literally anything to to make one part of the "machine" locomote the next. (people, animals, coil springs, steam, ropes, whatevs)

My uncle gave me a book full of these old comics, but I can't find it! : (

TJB: HAHA that wins. I played it 3 times to examine all the details... technically great and nicely presented, also a nice idea making the player the objective of the machine. It is hard to see all the nice mechanisms you made because you're locked into the pad.

Maybe some smart trigger cameras to follow the action would work?

Anyway, really good shit fella! = )

CHRIST ONA CRACKER! = )

I tried starting last night but my friends keep making me go out! I'm starting mine now. (there are a shitload of cool examples on youtube, wow)

looks neat keep it up

I started playing it... it looks amazing. Be careful if you have an older video card, as it will screw up your video modes... at least it did with me. (I have a x600 on a sony laptop with no new driver support)

I had to run without the new effects--delete the new dll it gives you to put in the HL folder, but the mapping/texturing/everything looks amazing.

Jahzel: Thumbnail police HOOO! (I hear the truck down the road, and he's pissed )

DO IT BITCH! = ) (seriously, do it lol)

Whatever the date, any excuse to have a party where i can eated caeks is a good one. 10-YEAR TRIBUTE/BIRTHDAY PARTY/CAEK MAP GO!

Hi folks, on behalf of of our, uh, pretty cool HL mappin site, please enjoy our 10-year truibute/birthday party/caek map. The sumptuous, deliciously pretty caek models were created by...

Seriously tho, is it can be 10-year tribute mapping contest or collective project, pleez?!

I Don't really understand it, I mean, if I want to make a map i want to showcase my work, not other peoples prefabs, but meh.

I guess it would be a cool place to show off your masterpieces, but again, i dunno... :/

Most prefabs should be models anyway, maybe a model vault LULZ! = )

That's what was supposed to happen, lol, but nobody lieked my base map nor was willing to create one, lol.

I'm tied up with the entity challenge anyway now, and the interest in this one dropped off fast, so maybe another time? Or YOU make a new texture challenge thread and base map and host the challenge. : P (which would be pretty cool imho)

Yeah I meant Zombie panic before lol, I don't think TH has a multiplayer.. : )

I started playing BB yesterday, and I quite like it.

Pretty neat map, and I like The BB games because you can go on an empty server, and still have some fun with the bots. I don't remember ZP having a bot component. (course obviously it's way harder/fun with real people)

I played your map for a while and I have a few observations. Keep in mind I just started playing the mod, so I still don't reaLly know what's going on.

-I like the general mapping. I'd like more accessible parts like maybe the bus and more buildings, but I know your limited by wpolys

-I wish there were more "seige" areas in the first part of the map. That main area is the only place you can survive, as there are no weapons of note anywhere else--that double barrel shotgun is useless, or I can't figure how to reload it lol. and if you pick up the winchester in the parking garage, theres no bullets! (one annyonying thing I've found with the mod is when you drop a weapon, it doesn't let you pick up a new one?)

-If not more siege areas, maybe some more ammo around the first part. That gun on the fire escape won't let me use it, even after I used impulse 101 to cheat and go to level +100, lol! = )

-I can jump on one of the cars, but the other one on the other side of the map is clipped off, even though it's the same car. I couldn't figure out how to get to all the "up top" areas, but maybe I had to play more or complete more objectives.

-I couldn't figure out how to get to the second area of them map, even after noclipping! the obstacles clear when you complete an objective?

Anyway, neat mod and neat map. I played this mod for hours yesterday, thanks for letting me kno about it! : )
(sorry about the rant)

Jazhel: is that the one with the mini uzis and scoped m4 in the attic? I just played it on a server yesterday if it was! ZP has a cool victorian house that's similar but bigger.

Nice, and should be pretty difficult from a creative standpoint... Like you guys said I can't wait to see what people do! = )

BTW Daubster remeber you're not precluded from joining this compo, like the last one we can vote for the winner... I hope you were planning on it but no pressure, lol : )

Daubster wins the first Entity Challenge... Congrats to you! = )

You have first dibs on choosing the next entity challenge. Time to choose...

: P

I remember checking this mod out a long time ago... I'm gonna reinstall it and check it out. Used to play They Hunger for a while but the online maps were shit.

Is there much of an online gaming community for BB?

Voting ends in about 7 hours, so get yours in! Tally so far:

Daubster 3 votes for his Waiting Room timer. Download!

Tetsu0 2 votes for his LCD Laser Clock. Download!

TJB 1 vote for his Digital Clock. Download!

The Other entrants:

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-Stopwatch by Redka. Download!

-Rotating Timer by Captain Terror. Download

Yeppers, and I apologize, but, consider:

If a Medium Truck Of Fail can make a thread spiral into idiocy, then it was going to die anyway.

Back on Track then:

I would agree with kraken that in that I'd like to push the limits of the Goldsource engine, which after so many years never ceases to amaze in versatility and potential.

The only trouble is is that less and less people play goldsource games all the time, and because of this, all the mainstream mods have quit development for them, which is a shame. There are still new, high-quality goldsource mods out, but they seem to be dwindling.

for these reasons, I will switch to Source as soon as I get a new machine, and probably won't look back.

I don't know anything about changelevels, but try searching the term "landmark" (no quotes) in the forums and see what comes up... (at least until someone answers your question.

half-life genius: If you insist...

The massive truck is in the repair shop, so this one's a loner:

If you can't get it to work you could just use a gib shooter, func_walls, and env_render. Render the func_wall "breakable stuff" invisible when triggered, and have the gib shooter spew the appropriate material?

Well unless somebody has a better idea, lets do the cave, ore we can wait 'till after the next entity challenge for a nice change. = )

Finally, here's my completed Klein bottle and Mobius Strip. The Klein bottle could be presented much better with texture/render/lighting properties, but the compile takes too long and I'm too impatient, plus, I've wasted enough time on the damn thing (though it was leagues easier than the mobius strip ; ) )

Klein Bottle Download

Mobius Strip Download

Read on if ur interested in the construction details:

The Klein bottle was made by simply using alt-e to scale sections of a 12 sided pipe made of "triangles" to the desired thickness and shape. for the curvy parts, I again used alt-e for some more scaling and VM to translate the pipe pieces to look curvy.

One 90-degree joint was needed to make the pipe "flip" back up to the top. to do this I just vmed 2 opposing pipes to make a crude 90-degree corner, and then used VM translations and scaling to make them look ok.

The section where the bottle "flows through itself" is a func_illusionary so you can walk/fall through the pipe. (you can slide/fall/climb through all the pipe sections smoothly, but you will have to noclip to get to the top and in the middle of the bottle.

Render options are normal/additive/100.

lighting is a light_environment at 15 with default light color

Texture scales are set to 3 and the interior of the pipe pieces are nulled out.

Any more questions about the Klein bottle or the Mobius, feel free to pm or ask in the thread! = )

K, any more votes peoples? We'll give it another day or so, so get your votes in! votes so far:

Daubster 3 votes for his waiting room timer. Download!

Tetsu0 2 votes for his LCD beam clock. Download!

The other contestants:

-Digital Clock by TJB. Download!

-Stopwatch by Redka. Download!

-Rotating Timer by Captain Terror. Download!

Yeah, but this is not the first time I've done something like this... these sort of bsp and csg times are unprecedented in my experience, but o well, ur right anyway! : P

Yours did not suck! : O

I'd put it just about equal with Tetsuo's! Though his method is flashier, your version has it's advantages too. no, no my friend your entry was superb, don't forget it!

Smite it now!

Yeah I didn't even have those switches intentionally on except for vis and rad (they were turned on under "shared" options in batch compiler). Thanks for spotting it, trying now. = )

edit: it's not helping, csg just took 7 minutes again, oh well! It's just weird I've never had these compile stages last so long!

My bsp and csg compile for my klein bottle are taking forever... over 7 and 12 minutes respectively. Even on my biggest maps I've never had those stages last so long. ( they usually last under 10 seconds each!)

My Klein bottle for geometry challenge 7 is done, It's just taking forever to compile!

Is there a way I can make these go quicker?

Compile log clicky

"And the driver is also fired ."

Haha talk of this truck of fail is more fun then talkin about mapping ideas, lulz... or Halo! : P

Seriously tho, as for ideas I think it would be cool to do blood gulch for cs and make the vechicles func_vehicles... could be cool

What are the specs? I hope it's under warranty?! :

It does load a lot faster then the game, though I don't know if it would take longer with the textures/models; i don't have the source .gcfs...

I'm considering dowloading HL2 just for the .gcfs to try it. I really just want to get a new computer, but meh.

sounds fine to me. I'm going to try to do my klein bottle for the heck of it right now, and then I'll get to work on my cave.

Shall we make #8 officially the cave challenge?

edit: btw are you guna upload ur mobius rmf? I'd love to steal, err.. examine your method and touch it! I'll upload mine if you upload yours!! = )

It's okey if you don't i understand, I'm just overly curious ; )

Daubster: 2 votes
Tetsu0: 2 votes

More votes peoples!

Winner has first dibs on picking the next entity challenge. These challenges will be a nice little change from geometry-based stuff imo... can't wait to see what kinda ideas we come up with. = )

clicky

(Yeah... I was bored and drunk = ) )

I got it to work by installing an old 1.5 version in my half-life folder, and then copying the new mod files into it from the newest download... no idea why it works but it does.

What a funnny mod so far! you can throw bear traps and scorpions at people, lol! = )

Be more specific what you want to happen, but it sound pretty simple. Check the "Entity Challenge" sticky to see a variety of timers you might use with your bomb!

Timer challenge is winding down, time to vote!

My vote goes to Daubster! = )

Here's yet another timer!

Pic
Download

It's more of a test map then anything. Also, I tried using a single MM for each dial to "smoothly" click a number into place by trigger/stop the wheel and adjusting the rotation. I got it close, but could never get it to stay perfect for more than 10 seconds.

I'll try to redo my klein bottle with less sides tomorrow (24 sides is too much of a pain!). Anyone else?

Also, if you have a good idea for a new geometry challenge, speak up, though I must say I'm getting tired of geometry... I'd literally kill some one for a series of texture challenges! = )

...there's way too much data to translate the matrix. :

lol.

"i quite liked the matrix"

(lol) ^ 2

HAHAHAHAHA!

Tetsu0 u p??ned yerself lolol! NO WAI! :PPPP

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I found this Version of Wanted!, ostensibly a Steam Port:

Download

But I can't get I to work. The setup program puts the mod files in an "extra" wantedsp directory (if you install, you'll see what I mean). It doesn't work for me tha native way it installs, and if I eliminate the erroneous directory, it gives me this error:I made a batch file to run it but it does the same thing...

Any ideas?

You don't understand. It disabled OpenGL on my system for EVERY game. (which is weird since it's ONLY supposed to be compatible with OpenGL and not the other way around)

But if you're saying that using !Launch.bat to run Paranoia would fix that and make OpenGL work for all may games again, then thanks.

If this is a joke:

Um...

If this is real:

I hate losing my work when Hammer crashes or you delete it accidentally.
:' ( ' ' '

Everyone: get ready to vote soon... a couple more days in-case anyone else wants to join in. The winner gets first choice on the next entity challenge!

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Daubster: Oh yeah, and why/how did you make the number tiles "glow blue" right as they flip?! I like that but I don't know how you did that! = )

2007:

De_Mon

2003-2006:

Carbaseus

STAR WARS

Operation Overlord

GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR.

Here's my half-hearted attempt to make the klein bottle cloning a 24-segment ring over and over on top of one another, and then using alt-e to scale the sections into the shape of the bottle. Then sum simple vertex translations to make it turn at the bottom. U'll notice tho I get stuck at the point where the bottle turn makes 90 degrees:

LOOk sea! = )

(it only took like 15-20 minutes to do so far!)

Tetsu0: awww it really does blow tho! = )

Penguinboy: Looks pretty cool how did you do it? I got it to downloaded by just making all the "swirls" func walls, tho it's not perfect obv:

Screenata

How'd you make it?! Probably wouldn't take much to make it errorless with a little tlc. the shadows look neat but not exactly like the screen tho, and I don know why but doesn't it look cool?! ; ) (I dun liek muffinz tho)

Ant222: YUp, the same rediculous slow method... at least I only had to make one one quarter segemnt and then paste it. It was a bitch though to make the brushes not look "inside out" lolz, if you know what I mean.

I'm intrigued as to how you do it! Giv me ur sekrets!

Wow where to begin... = )

Here's my version that took forever, and three differnt methods... three time's a charm I guess... It's huge and very big and quite large. Did I mention it's huge?

Clicky

I'll put the rmf and a dressed up version of the map soon hopefully.

Ant222: I'm very jealous. I wish I would have spent more time thinking about how to do it to, rather than going at my version in a brute force fashion!! ( it would have saved me ages!)

Anyway, i'm intrigued how it works exactly and can't wait to try it myself!

(c)striker: I love starcraft as much as anyone, but I'm not sure how this fits as a geometry challenge. (im using your last pic as my desktop btw! = ) )

TBH, I don't see any challenges in building it, unless you set a low wpoly limit or sumthin to make it fun...

Well whatevs anyway, if we can't think of a regular geometry challenge next (this one was kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel imo), I'd be happy to participate in your BC challenge! = )

Oh and (c)striker btw, for all that is holy pleeez use thumbs for the goddamn huge images, lol! = )

Tetsu0: SHA YAMATO OWNs INTERWEBS, obvously...

Jeez Chirstmas you guys never cease to amaze! : O O O O

Daubster: <speechless>

I ripped your map apart to see how yours works, and I must say I still can't figure it out exactly how it works, even with the notes. (NOES I reded the raedme! = ) )

Tell me if this is the basic sequence:

1. trigger func door rotating rotates into place
2. env render that one invisible so you don't see it close
3. env render the next one visible
4. trigger FDR rotates into place
5. repeat

I loved the clock sounds and the water bottle sounds lol! The clock operation and presentation is nothing short of perfect. Of all the ways I could thing to do this, I never thought of this way!

Completely win. you knows what comes next my friend...

The Epic Badge of Win.(you guys keep making me give these out because you are too good!! they're supposed to be for special rare occasions, but you people keep winning on an epic level! = ) )

TJB: sweet, good on you = )

Redka: looks sweet. I'm opening it now! = )

Edit: Works flawlessly to start and stop and that the watch housing/hands are built sexytime!

You could incorporate this with 4 rotating, 10-sided cylinders and make the timer like a turnstile counter like Penguinboy mentioned at the beginning too.

NIce work fella! = )

Excellent Tetsu0!

I'm on my third try for just the mobius and I'm about to admit fail! : P

One more version, and then I think I'll retire to failure towne on this challenge. Your picture gives me some good hints tho, heh heh...

I recently edited/cleaned up an error log I used to keep. Here it is:

http://captain0terror.googlepages.com/interestinghammererrorsbyCaptainTerr.txt

Despite my editing it's a tad messy and some of the content is highly arcane, so my feelings will not be hurt if you don't use it or chop it up! = )

Hope it helps.

Edit: use notepad or wordpad to view with wordrap on: there are no hard returns, except at the end of titles and paragraphs! : O