Texture Creation

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-29 17:53:35 UTC Post #204477

I'm bored of the HL wad and I'm getting fed up of using loads of other wads to get a unique looking level so I've decided to start working on my own textures.

What I need to know is what applications are best for this kind of thing. I have PaintShopPro 7 and PhotoShop CS2. Are there any other free apps out there to aid in making decent looking textures and tutorials to use aforementioned apps?

And I don't want any "OMGzorZ G00gLe n00b!" responces because I will be forced to unleash an army of angry kittens on your genitals. I want to know Your recommendations. NOT GOOGLE'S!

Cheers.

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

pepper

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-29 18:13:26 UTC Post #204479

Yup, painter, wally, The Gimp, and another 2 or 3 of wich i cant remember the name.

Texture creation is basicly mixing photo's(as rim has shown) and drawing in details by highlighting them.

pepper

Caboose

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-29 18:19:08 UTC Post #204481

PS is the best you can get.

Just get Wally for the actual WAD creation.

Caboose

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-29 18:40:46 UTC Post #204486

So basically get photos of the desired object and add details with PS?

Fair enough.

Cheers.

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

Orpheus

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 06:30:06 UTC Post #204560

Orpheus

l1ddl3monkey

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 15:26:59 UTC Post #204604

Photoshop is ideal for offsetting images (so they tile) - once I've offset them

I use PS Pro 7 - I found the menu's to be less fiddly than 8 and the layering applications more manageable. And you can CTRL+C, CTRL+E from a PSP image straight into a WAD file in Wally and Wally does all the re-mipping for you.

Also look for the Golgotha texture set - this was a texture set that was made for an unfinished game and released for free download a few years ago (there are still some copies about). It features loads of useful textures that make up good base images for you to maul and fiddle with (and you will be surprised how many bits and pieces from the texture set you recognise - for instance there's textures in there that have been modified by Relic 25, some that made an appearance in Poke 646 and a lot that show up in the HL1 screenies of Nightwatch).

l1ddl3monkey

pepper

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 15:30:00 UTC Post #204605

Not quite, photos can best be used to create a grungy overlay, most of the times i draw up the texture and then mix around a bit.

pepper

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 15:51:51 UTC Post #204609

Tried my hand at re-mastering some of the HL1 textures.

Take a look and tell me what you think.

http://forums.gamernode.com/showthread.php?t=7669

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

RotatorSplint

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 22:39:01 UTC Post #204693

They're a good start

Let's see em in a map - It'd be a little bit easer to 'rate'

RotatorSplint

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 22:45:47 UTC Post #204694

See the bottom of that thread in the link.

w00teh!

I have just created my first texture from scratch.

I think its pretty damn good for a first try anyway.

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

Blitzkrieg

Posted 17 years ago2006-11-30 23:49:08 UTC Post #204700

Looks good. Better than my first try.

Blitzkrieg

l1ddl3monkey

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-02 09:07:06 UTC Post #204821

Your "from scratch" textures are way better than your "redux" textures! Where did the dead people models come from? - those are pretty cool too

l1ddl3monkey

Orpheus

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-02 09:15:08 UTC Post #204822

Orpheus

Strider

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-02 10:48:46 UTC Post #204828

So, you're practically telling him to give up because he linked to barely large images on a forum that isn't even this one?

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Orpheus

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-02 11:19:15 UTC Post #204830

Orpheus

Strider

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-02 23:46:58 UTC Post #204880

If you think linking to 300-400k images is 'rude', then you're just being petty. I lived with 56k internet for years, loading up images a hell of a lot larger and never complained over such a stupid thing, and definately without alluding to the idea that someone should just 'give up' because of it.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

Penguinboy

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 00:30:28 UTC Post #204881

hahaha, 'obscenely large'
10mb images are 'obscenely large'
1mb+ are 'large'
500kb is 'fine'
anything under is 'small'

PenguinboyHaha, I died again!

Dave932932

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 02:49:21 UTC Post #204883

Muhahaha I have 10 Mbps cable. It took longer to find and click the download links for the map cycle on Muzzleflash's server than it it did to download them. 684KB files done in one second.

Dave932932

Athlete

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 02:53:03 UTC Post #204884

And I thought I was amazing because I got upgraded to 385kbs. :
South African Internet = Teh suckage.

Athlete

srry

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 03:58:35 UTC Post #204885

Why do you upscale the textures like that? All that detail is just going to be lost when you resize it, which you'll have to do if you want to put them in a map.

srry

Orpheus

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 10:18:40 UTC Post #204900

Orpheus

Strider

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 10:22:07 UTC Post #204901

Oh god, have a psycho bitch over nothing why don't you. I'm an asshole because i tolerate things, damn right.

StriderTuned to a dead channel.

ZombieLoffe

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 10:27:28 UTC Post #204904

Stop whining about large images and get with the times, you stone-age man. Anything below broadband is so 1990's. Whiner.

In fact, I think we should encourage large images (2 megs plus - the bigger the better!) to somehow mock and mess with the 56k people, in our utter broadband superiority. Ha.

ZombieLoffe

Orpheus

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 10:30:29 UTC Post #204906

Orpheus

ZombieLoffe

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 10:34:14 UTC Post #204908

Resolving this would be making dial-up people get a decent connection.

ZombieLoffe

AJ

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-03 10:35:31 UTC Post #204909

I find it amusing that a thread on texture creation can evolve into something so very petty.

As such, any further off-topic posts from mine will be deleted.

AJGlorious Overlord

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 10:59:53 UTC Post #205113

@l1ddl3monkey: They are the hostages from CSS. Shame I didn't have my Scientist skins on them when I took the screenie

@Orpheus: Sorry. I shall slap 56k warning across it next time.

@Ant: Thank you.

Another sign to be used in KinetiX.

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

pepper

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 14:02:23 UTC Post #205132

Your getting the hang of this nicely, keep it up!

pepper

Elon Yariv

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 14:16:56 UTC Post #205135

It's nice, yet there is a lot to be done! The sign still doesn't seem real enough. It looks 2 dimentional. I would expect the text to be extruded inward a bit and at the lower sides the with line should be darker at parts.

Try using photo shop magnificent fiture- blend modes. Right click on the layer and choose blend options.

A window will apear with all the blending modes at the left side and on the right side the mode's configurations.
There are quite a few mode you should know of. Lighten only shows the parts of the layer that are brighter then the pic below, and darken is just the oppisite.
Exturde is quite self exploitery, it darkens and lightens that edges of the visible parts in the layer making them look like they are extruded, inward or outward, your choice. This is the mode you should have used in the sign.

Hope this helps.

Elon Yariv

Rimrook

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 14:18:46 UTC Post #205136

hmm... that sign is wierd with the KinetiX Labs written the way it is on it. I don't think a sign would ever look that way.

But, if the lab was called Kineti, it might be kinda cool. Then have KinetiX as is Kineti 10 in roman numerals. Then you can have surrounding labs like KinetiXI and KinetiVIII. Much like City 17 from HL2. It would bring some depth to it, if thats not whats already planned.

Kineti sounds like some sorry british place to me. I sense potential.

RimrookSince 2003

Elon Yariv

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 14:25:27 UTC Post #205138

Hey rimrook, I remember you posted a little explanation about making costum textures from sketch. I remember you created an ugly looking texture that was quite simple to make and then used a overlay pic to make it look better. Can you post is again? It'll help me a great deal.

Another thing, where do you get your overlay pics? Don't tell me google because I simply don't really know what to search for. If you tell me google give me an example for what should I look for. Thanks in advance.

Elon Yariv

Caboose

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 14:33:19 UTC Post #205140

Download

Caboose

pepper

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 15:14:38 UTC Post #205142

DaveJ has some on his website and Psi has.

pepper

Archie

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 15:15:38 UTC Post #205143

making costum textures from sketch

I lol'd

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

Elon Yariv

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 15:37:15 UTC Post #205145

I abhore you hunter, and your stupidty. Do you do anything but tease?

Elon Yariv

Archie

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 16:01:00 UTC Post #205146

I abhore you

hehehhe

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 16:14:45 UTC Post #205147

@Elon: I didn't want the letters to be extruding. Its just a standard British sign.

(56k warning.)
http://www.midbeds.gov.uk/Images/Road%20sign%202_tcm4-6906.JPG

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

Orpheus

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 16:27:47 UTC Post #205150

Orpheus

Rimrook

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 16:37:41 UTC Post #205152

Hey rimrook, I remember you posted a little explanation about making costum textures from sketch. I remember you created an ugly looking texture that was quite simple to make and then used a overlay pic to make it look better. Can you post is again? It'll help me a great deal.
Another thing, where do you get your overlay pics? Don't tell me google because I simply don't really know what to search for. If you tell me google give me an example for what should I look for. Thanks in advance.

First: k.

Yours.

Yours with overlay by me.

Overlay Texture.

Second: I get my overlays from photographs I have taken myself. Its the best way to do it. Google sux for texture searching.

RimrookSince 2003

monster_urby

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 16:39:18 UTC Post #205153

True.

monster_urbyGoldsourcerer

Rimrook

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 16:42:14 UTC Post #205154

ack. i was going to edit and add this. It will help a little.

Texture Kit

RimrookSince 2003

ZombieLoffe

Posted 17 years ago2006-12-05 18:17:17 UTC Post #205161

That overlay texture is sexeh.

ZombieLoffe

Texture Creation Created 17 years ago2006-11-29 17:53:35 UTC by monster_urby