Left 4 Dead Created 15 years ago2008-11-09 01:59:37 UTC by satchmo satchmo

Created 15 years ago2008-11-09 01:59:37 UTC by satchmo satchmo

Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 01:59:55 UTC Post #258286
I was looking into "Left 4 Dead" this evening, and I realized that Valve has stolen my idea for the game.

Do I have a legitimate reason to sue Valve? I submitted the idea to Valve many years ago, and they made it into a game without crediting me.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 03:04:06 UTC Post #258288
...you're kidding, right?

EDIT: okay, in case you aren't.
1. Your post is dated 2008, and L4D has been around a lot longer than that.
2. If you submit an idea to Valve (or any other company), you lose any rights to that idea.
3. Even if your idea was stolen, unless you have made an official copyright claim on that idea, you don't own the legal rights to that idea.
4. Finally, even if you did submit the idea itself to Valve BEFORE Left 4 Dead was thought up, it's still impossible seeing that Left 4 Dead originally came from Turtle Rock Studios, until Valve bought them out.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 06:35:43 UTC Post #258290
And as the saying go's : If you can think it, someone has thaught off it before.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 09:16:10 UTC Post #258292
I don't get how L4D is anything like your idea
Madcow MadcowSpy zappin my udder
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 12:50:51 UTC Post #258295
L4D is shitting awesome and if you sue valve I will rage.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 12:52:50 UTC Post #258296
He's joking, this is Satchmo for goodness sake, not Jimmy or Spike.
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 13:10:32 UTC Post #258298
Im gonna sue satchmo for undue stress
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 13:23:37 UTC Post #258299
I am going to sue myself for wetting my own pants.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 13:25:22 UTC Post #258300
Maybe you should see a doctor for that
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 13:27:45 UTC Post #258301
Epic roll is epic?

Speaking of L4D, I need to play this. Now.
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 13:33:08 UTC Post #258302
Well buy it then. If you are short on friends I don't mind hosting :P Hey! You can name yourself Ieatchowcheeseorwhatever and then I will not to shoot you :o
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 13:42:02 UTC Post #258303
Maybe you should see a doctor for that
I already looked at myself in the mirror this morning.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-09 21:26:18 UTC Post #258312
Well buy it then.
I'm waiting until Tuesday.

Even then it'll take forever to download it. :(
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 01:49:35 UTC Post #258317
yeah downloading takes ages. the demo is unnecessarily large. D: like 3gb or some shit. took me hours to download, but dewdle managed to download in like 4 minutes. shit was fucked up.

great game though. even losing is fun, though it can get a bit frustrating at times.
Trapt Traptlegend
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 03:16:47 UTC Post #258318
yeah tuna, satch is a doctor.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Positive Chaos
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 04:27:36 UTC Post #258319
Left 4 Dead is so awesome I actually paid for two copies.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 13:14:21 UTC Post #258339
Left 4 Dead is so awesome I actually paid for two copies.
Maybe you can give the extra copy to me. :P
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 13:30:15 UTC Post #258340
I actually paid for two copies.
What for? :o
Habboi HabboiSticky White Love Glue
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 14:27:35 UTC Post #258341
to give one of them to me ;)
Skals SkalsLevel Designer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 14:34:02 UTC Post #258342
Urby was gonna buy L4D next week but now my money has gone elsewhere.

Damn independance. Gotta wait for Xmas now. :(
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 20:39:42 UTC Post #258349
Oh great, one kickass game is out and available to play a demo of and I have no cash. Great. Fucking. Timing.
38_98 38_98Lord
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 20:55:44 UTC Post #258350
The demo goes public for free tomorrow. I've had this rant already. :P

Found a great deal on Play.com though. ?22.99 (?10 less than steam) if you pre-order the boxed copy. Of course you have to wait an extra week for the full game...and you need to live in the UK.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 21:10:41 UTC Post #258351
Your idea does resemble Left4Dead, exept L4D has no HL Universe ties. Really though, I bet at least 1 other person (exept the people who thought up L4D) Has had a similar idea. Just like when you make an essay that has no (intentional) plagirisim in it, then someone else handed in a similar essay a few yars ago, and you get slapped for cheating. I'm sure thats happened to someone before. It is a really good idea though, and even if ValvE did'nt steal it, I have to admire you for having such a great whopper of an idea. Maybe you could make a MOD for L4D, and add your ideas to it. ;)
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 21:25:31 UTC Post #258353
Maybe you can give the extra copy to me. :P
What for? :o
to give one of them to me ;)
Too late, I already gave it away. I uhh.. owed someone a favour, someone feathery in nature.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 21:28:32 UTC Post #258354
someone feathery in nature.
I would guess Pengiunboy.

Then again, they don't have feathers.
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 21:33:26 UTC Post #258355
they don't have feathers.
Ornithology fail.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-10 22:01:01 UTC Post #258356
Of course they have feathers, otherwise we would have to call you 'Baldboy'

And i have to wait until L4D comes out retail. And even then i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all :cry:
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 00:12:16 UTC Post #258358
If they didn't have feathers, they wouldn't be boids.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 03:38:03 UTC Post #258359
The demo goes public for free tomorrow. I've had this rant already.
Yeh, thats great and all, but its not the full thing :(

Of course, im still gunna get the demo. I would be crazy not too. Files damn big though, gunna take me hours.
38_98 38_98Lord
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 08:18:29 UTC Post #258364
Oh, of course its Tuesday morning, and it won't allow me to download. Guess I wont be able to download it while I'm at school. Thanks a lot steam.

Now I'll have to wait an eternity while it downloads at a snails pace, 150 kb/s

Please tell me why I have 512 available, but steam only utilizes 150?
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 09:08:36 UTC Post #258365
Check your settings.
i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all
...whut? You know there are people on the internet right?
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 17:14:47 UTC Post #258378
I told my brother to start the DL when it came out. It has only 4 hours left, thank god.

I have an assload of homework tonight, though. Fuck.
Luke LukeLuke
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 17:18:39 UTC Post #258379
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 17:49:25 UTC Post #258380
Download was damn fast for me, about 1-1 1/2 hours for me :D

But now Im being told to update my drivers (more downloading).

Curse you!!!
38_98 38_98Lord
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 17:51:36 UTC Post #258381
well, fine 20% in the past 40 minutes, not unbearable. But I'll still complain just cause I'm an impatient bastard.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 17:52:54 UTC Post #258382
I'm thinking about the times I had a 60 kb/s connection :\
I was very patient those days :biggrin:
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 18:16:12 UTC Post #258383
I also need to update my drivers. Nearly 40% after 2 hours. c'mon!
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 18:34:48 UTC Post #258385
I'm downloading the demo now, too. 1 hour and 45 minutes to go, but I'll be in class in 15 minutes anyway.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 18:41:39 UTC Post #258386
4 Hours and 10 minutes to go! :(

That's set to finish at 01:40am...

That only leaves just over 3 hours to play before I get my hour of sleep! :gak:
monster_urby monster_urbyGoldsourcerer
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 18:45:09 UTC Post #258387
LOL world crafter will be in class in 15 minutes , I"ll be in bed in 15 minutes =))
Striker StrikerI forgot to check the oil pressure
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 19:15:44 UTC Post #258388
L4D means more to me than sleep.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 20:39:25 UTC Post #258394
Uh... ATDestroy??? Without sleep, you cant function. no sleep means no L4D, cause no sleep means no cohearent thought. ( I assume most people need that for playing games that are more complex than pong)
Notewell NotewellGIASFELFEBREHBER
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 20:43:46 UTC Post #258395
Obviously you've never heard of our friend Caffeine.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:08:33 UTC Post #258396
Ignoring jeffMOD's attempt at trying to force me to think logically. (How dare you!)

L4D finally downloaded, and I have to say it was great fun! I'll definitely be getting the full game.

The gameplay wasn't particularly challenging, I got through on expert second try, and that was only because I encountered a tank when I was low on health first try. Right at the door too :cry:
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:09:49 UTC Post #258397
Quote:
i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all

...whut? You know there are people on the internet right?
No-one in Oz with a half-decent internet connection... and with a maximum of 4 players all good servers will be full...

And whats more, everyone i know is not interested in buying it so LAN is out of the question
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:10:52 UTC Post #258398
You don't have any friends, local or otherwise, that might want to play a game with you?

You could always play a game with me, but my ping would be horrible, and, just ask muzzleflash, (remember decay?) I'm terrible in a co-op situation ;>
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:24:01 UTC Post #258400
hlife_hotdog: Penguinboy, dewdle, Trapt and myself are all aussie and play L4D regularly. Game with us! And when we're not playing there's always matchmaking and solo play. ;)
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:35:23 UTC Post #258401
I do have a few friends with good internet connections, but like i said, they are not interested in L4D and don't want to buy it.

#EDIT# Well, in that case, it wouldn't be too hard to get a game every now and then, still, i have to wait until it goes retail.
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:39:25 UTC Post #258403
I am downloading the demo now too. It's progressing rather fast.
satchmo satchmo“Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. -- Samuel Beckett”
Posted 15 years ago2008-11-11 21:43:58 UTC Post #258405
I just got owned by a tank.

And then owned by a witch.

I just can't seem to kill them! lol
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