I was looking into "Left 4 Dead" this evening, and I realized that Valve has stolen my idea for the game.
Do I have a legitimate reason to sue Valve? I submitted the idea to Valve many years ago, and they made it into a game without crediting me.
Left 4 Dead
Created 16 years ago2008-11-09 01:59:37 UTC by
satchmo
Created 16 years ago2008-11-09 01:59:37 UTC by
satchmo
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 01:59:55 UTC
Post #258286
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 03:04:06 UTC
Post #258288
...you're kidding, right?
EDIT: okay, in case you aren't.
1. Your post is dated 2008, and L4D has been around a lot longer than that.
2. If you submit an idea to Valve (or any other company), you lose any rights to that idea.
3. Even if your idea was stolen, unless you have made an official copyright claim on that idea, you don't own the legal rights to that idea.
4. Finally, even if you did submit the idea itself to Valve BEFORE Left 4 Dead was thought up, it's still impossible seeing that Left 4 Dead originally came from Turtle Rock Studios, until Valve bought them out.
EDIT: okay, in case you aren't.
1. Your post is dated 2008, and L4D has been around a lot longer than that.
2. If you submit an idea to Valve (or any other company), you lose any rights to that idea.
3. Even if your idea was stolen, unless you have made an official copyright claim on that idea, you don't own the legal rights to that idea.
4. Finally, even if you did submit the idea itself to Valve BEFORE Left 4 Dead was thought up, it's still impossible seeing that Left 4 Dead originally came from Turtle Rock Studios, until Valve bought them out.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 06:35:43 UTC
Post #258290
And as the saying go's : If you can think it, someone has thaught off it before.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 09:16:10 UTC
Post #258292
I don't get how L4D is anything like your idea
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 12:50:51 UTC
Post #258295
L4D is shitting awesome and if you sue valve I will rage.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 12:52:50 UTC
Post #258296
He's joking, this is Satchmo for goodness sake, not Jimmy or Spike.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 13:10:32 UTC
Post #258298
Im gonna sue satchmo for undue stress
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 13:23:37 UTC
Post #258299
I am going to sue myself for wetting my own pants.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 13:25:22 UTC
Post #258300
Maybe you should see a doctor for that
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 13:27:45 UTC
Post #258301
Epic roll is epic?
Speaking of L4D, I need to play this. Now.
Speaking of L4D, I need to play this. Now.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 13:33:08 UTC
Post #258302
Well buy it then. If you are short on friends I don't mind hosting 
Hey! You can name yourself Ieatchowcheeseorwhatever and then I will not to shoot you 
Hey! You can name yourself Ieatchowcheeseorwhatever and then I will not to shoot you
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 13:42:02 UTC
Post #258303
Maybe you should see a doctor for thatI already looked at myself in the mirror this morning.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-09 21:26:18 UTC
Post #258312
Well buy it then.I'm waiting until Tuesday.
Even then it'll take forever to download it.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 01:49:35 UTC
Post #258317
yeah downloading takes ages. the demo is unnecessarily large. D: like 3gb or some shit. took me hours to download, but dewdle managed to download in like 4 minutes. shit was fucked up.
great game though. even losing is fun, though it can get a bit frustrating at times.
great game though. even losing is fun, though it can get a bit frustrating at times.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 03:16:47 UTC
Post #258318
yeah tuna, satch is a doctor.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 04:27:36 UTC
Post #258319
Left 4 Dead is so awesome I actually paid for two copies.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 13:14:21 UTC
Post #258339
Left 4 Dead is so awesome I actually paid for two copies.Maybe you can give the extra copy to me.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 13:30:15 UTC
Post #258340
I actually paid for two copies.What for?
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 14:27:35 UTC
Post #258341
to give one of them to me 
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 14:34:02 UTC
Post #258342
Urby was gonna buy L4D next week but now my money has gone elsewhere.
Damn independance. Gotta wait for Xmas now.
Damn independance. Gotta wait for Xmas now.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 20:39:42 UTC
Post #258349
Oh great, one kickass game is out and available to play a demo of and I have no cash. Great. Fucking. Timing.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 20:55:44 UTC
Post #258350
The demo goes public for free tomorrow. I've had this rant already.
Found a great deal on Play.com though. ?22.99 (?10 less than steam) if you pre-order the boxed copy. Of course you have to wait an extra week for the full game...and you need to live in the UK.
Found a great deal on Play.com though. ?22.99 (?10 less than steam) if you pre-order the boxed copy. Of course you have to wait an extra week for the full game...and you need to live in the UK.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 21:10:41 UTC
Post #258351
Your idea does resemble Left4Dead, exept L4D has no HL Universe ties. Really though, I bet at least 1 other person (exept the people who thought up L4D) Has had a similar idea. Just like when you make an essay that has no (intentional) plagirisim in it, then someone else handed in a similar essay a few yars ago, and you get slapped for cheating. I'm sure thats happened to someone before. It is a really good idea though, and even if ValvE did'nt steal it, I have to admire you for having such a great whopper of an idea. Maybe you could make a MOD for L4D, and add your ideas to it.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 21:25:31 UTC
Post #258353
Maybe you can give the extra copy to me.
What for?
to give one of them to meToo late, I already gave it away. I uhh.. owed someone a favour, someone feathery in nature.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 21:28:32 UTC
Post #258354
someone feathery in nature.I would guess Pengiunboy.
Then again, they don't have feathers.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 21:33:26 UTC
Post #258355
they don't have feathers.Ornithology fail.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-10 22:01:01 UTC
Post #258356
Of course they have feathers, otherwise we would have to call you 'Baldboy'
And i have to wait until L4D comes out retail. And even then i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all
And i have to wait until L4D comes out retail. And even then i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 00:12:16 UTC
Post #258358
If they didn't have feathers, they wouldn't be boids.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 03:38:03 UTC
Post #258359
The demo goes public for free tomorrow. I've had this rant already.Yeh, thats great and all, but its not the full thing
Of course, im still gunna get the demo. I would be crazy not too. Files damn big though, gunna take me hours.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 08:18:29 UTC
Post #258364
Oh, of course its Tuesday morning, and it won't allow me to download. Guess I wont be able to download it while I'm at school. Thanks a lot steam.
Now I'll have to wait an eternity while it downloads at a snails pace, 150 kb/s
Please tell me why I have 512 available, but steam only utilizes 150?
Now I'll have to wait an eternity while it downloads at a snails pace, 150 kb/s
Please tell me why I have 512 available, but steam only utilizes 150?
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 09:08:36 UTC
Post #258365
Check your settings.
i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all...whut? You know there are people on the internet right?
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 17:14:47 UTC
Post #258378
I told my brother to start the DL when it came out. It has only 4 hours left, thank god.
I have an assload of homework tonight, though. Fuck.
I have an assload of homework tonight, though. Fuck.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 17:18:39 UTC
Post #258379
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 17:49:25 UTC
Post #258380
Download was damn fast for me, about 1-1 1/2 hours for me 
But now Im being told to update my drivers (more downloading).
Curse you!!!
But now Im being told to update my drivers (more downloading).
Curse you!!!
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 17:51:36 UTC
Post #258381
well, fine 20% in the past 40 minutes, not unbearable. But I'll still complain just cause I'm an impatient bastard.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 17:52:54 UTC
Post #258382
I'm thinking about the times I had a 60 kb/s connection 
I was very patient those days
I was very patient those days
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 18:16:12 UTC
Post #258383
I also need to update my drivers. Nearly 40% after 2 hours. c'mon!
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 18:34:48 UTC
Post #258385
I'm downloading the demo now, too. 1 hour and 45 minutes to go, but I'll be in class in 15 minutes anyway.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 18:41:39 UTC
Post #258386
4 Hours and 10 minutes to go!
That's set to finish at 01:40am...
That only leaves just over 3 hours to play before I get my hour of sleep!
That's set to finish at 01:40am...
That only leaves just over 3 hours to play before I get my hour of sleep!
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 18:45:09 UTC
Post #258387
LOL world crafter will be in class in 15 minutes , I"ll be in bed in 15 minutes =))
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 19:15:44 UTC
Post #258388
L4D means more to me than sleep.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 20:39:25 UTC
Post #258394
Uh... ATDestroy??? Without sleep, you cant function. no sleep means no L4D, cause no sleep means no cohearent thought. ( I assume most people need that for playing games that are more complex than pong)
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 20:43:46 UTC
Post #258395
Obviously you've never heard of our friend Caffeine.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:08:33 UTC
Post #258396
Ignoring jeffMOD's attempt at trying to force me to think logically. (How dare you!)
L4D finally downloaded, and I have to say it was great fun! I'll definitely be getting the full game.
The gameplay wasn't particularly challenging, I got through on expert second try, and that was only because I encountered a tank when I was low on health first try. Right at the door too
L4D finally downloaded, and I have to say it was great fun! I'll definitely be getting the full game.
The gameplay wasn't particularly challenging, I got through on expert second try, and that was only because I encountered a tank when I was low on health first try. Right at the door too
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:09:49 UTC
Post #258397
Quote:No-one in Oz with a half-decent internet connection... and with a maximum of 4 players all good servers will be full...
i'll have noone to play with so maybe i won't get it at all
...whut? You know there are people on the internet right?
And whats more, everyone i know is not interested in buying it so LAN is out of the question
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:10:52 UTC
Post #258398
You don't have any friends, local or otherwise, that might want to play a game with you?
You could always play a game with me, but my ping would be horrible, and, just ask muzzleflash, (remember decay?) I'm terrible in a co-op situation ;>
You could always play a game with me, but my ping would be horrible, and, just ask muzzleflash, (remember decay?) I'm terrible in a co-op situation ;>
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:24:01 UTC
Post #258400
hlife_hotdog: Penguinboy, dewdle, Trapt and myself are all aussie and play L4D regularly. Game with us! And when we're not playing there's always matchmaking and solo play.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:35:23 UTC
Post #258401
I do have a few friends with good internet connections, but like i said, they are not interested in L4D and don't want to buy it.
#EDIT# Well, in that case, it wouldn't be too hard to get a game every now and then, still, i have to wait until it goes retail.
#EDIT# Well, in that case, it wouldn't be too hard to get a game every now and then, still, i have to wait until it goes retail.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:39:25 UTC
Post #258403
I am downloading the demo now too. It's progressing rather fast.
Posted 16 years ago2008-11-11 21:43:58 UTC
Post #258405
I just got owned by a tank.
And then owned by a witch.
I just can't seem to kill them! lol
And then owned by a witch.
I just can't seem to kill them! lol
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