I'm sure this problem happens a lot, but I really need help with it.

I am running Vista Ultimate 32-bit, and I have the ATi Radeon HD 4890 installed. I can't select anything in the camera (3D) view, and this is quite annoying. I read over this Wiki article, but those fixes only work for those running Windows XP. I need to know if there is any fix for this issue for those who are running Windows Vista 32-bit. If anyone has any suggestions or solutions for me (other than installing a virtual PC of XP), please let me know. I would appreciate it greatly!!!

hmm i have found another solution... written in PL but

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u should change "hardware acceleration" to 3

Thanks for the link, but my ATi driver does not allow me to change my hardware acceleration settings at all. Therefore, when I go to change my hardware acceleration settings, this is what I see:As you can see, my current ATi drivers disabled hardware acceleration from being changed in Windows advanced display settings. Also, I think this problem with the 3D camera view is because ATi dropped support for OpenGL in their latest drivers.

Ugh, this is a pain. Hopefully there is a way to fix this (even if I need to download earlier drivers from ATi that have OpenGL support enabled).

The wiki that solves the problem only half for the xp users too : you can select , but it has horrible framerate.

maybe try an older version of the drivers or ati control panel software?

maybe try an older version of the drivers or ati control panel software?

That's what I was thinking of doing. That, or disabling my drivers altogether (which isn't such a good idea to me). Does anyone know what is the latest ATi driver that still provides OpenGL support? I heard somewhere that anything below 7.11 will do so, but I want to make sure that I have the latest ATi driver that still enables OpenGL.

I'm running WinXP and have an ATi Radeon HD 4670 and I can tell you know that downgrading the drivers made no difference for me at all.

The so called "Fix" that you can get for Hammer also caused my PC to lockup and reboot.

This is what I had to do. Open Notepad and save a blank document in your Hammer file. Save the empty document as: atioglxx.dll

This means you can now select in the 3D view but as The_(c)Striker mentioned earlier it can cause some pretty horrible framerate issues when your map starts to build up. It can become very frustrating.

(Like i said, I'm running XP so I couldn't tell you if this works in Vista)

I'm actually saving up for a tiny Eee PC which I will run with WinXP just so that I have a machine that I can map on. (That way I can also work on maps at work while on breaks)

It's just the older versions of OGL that ATI dropped support for. Obviously they won't ever drop it completely because OGL games would stop working

new video card [turn on] turn off... awww

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It's just the older versions of OGL that ATI dropped support for. Obviously they won't ever drop it completely because OGL games would stop working smile -

Ah, ok. That makes more sense now. I was wondering why the Hammer Editor for Left 4 Dead worked fine, but the Hammer Editor for Half-Life did not.

This is what I had to do. Open Notepad and save a blank document in your Hammer file. Save the empty document as: atioglxx.dll

Thanks, but I think that was mentioned in the Wiki article that I linked to in my first post in this topic. I tried that, but it didn't work. It's a shame, though, because I was really into getting my Mod fixed up for the Beta 2 release. Looks like that's going to have to wait...

I do the same way as Urby, but I disble the "Filter Textures" option on "3D views" tab, It messes up with the textures but I get a nice framerate.
Edit: Also I want to kill the one who dropped OpenGL on ATI drivers.

have you tried the omega drivers?

have you tried the omega drivers?

No, I haven't. What are they, and can they help?

Well omega drivers are 3rd party, open source drivers. They have them for ATI, Nvidia, and any other card out there.

GET EM HERE

They're the best drivers out there. Most of the time they're better than the company's own. And you never know, maybe the guys who make them know about the OGL problem, and fixed it?

Just back up your oldies before you get them. In-case it makes matters worse (I doubt they will) Just some words of caution.

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EDIT -

Oh damnit. Upon further research, i guess the guy who writes the drivers had a bit of a problem. His wife had a.. problem, and he hasnt been working on anything really. So as of now, there are no ATI drivers for Vista. But the site says they'll be in soon.

Omega drivers were all the rage ten years ago. Nowadays nobody uses them because the vendor drivers are better. I recommend that you do not use them unless you get stuck in some sort of time warp and get sent back to 1999.

To correct Tet, they are not open source, and they don't differ from the vendor drivers at all. They just provide some registry changes that allowed some different customisation features. They are also very old and should never be used, when more up-to-date drivers are available.

Omega drivers won't solve the Hammer problem any more than installing old versions of official drivers will.

D: the bitter taste of failure

Well I saw improvement when i was using them for my radeon 9550 before i got my XPS m1210.

Thanks, guys. I appreciate the information.

Well, it seems as though there is no fix for this problem other than disabling my video card. I actually got a virtual version of Windows XP running using Microsoft Virtual PC 2007, but it thinks that I have some weird video card installed, and so I can't update the drivers for that video card (which makes things a hell of a lot harder when trying to make maps). But, at least it works, and that's just going to have to do for now.

If anyone has any other suggestions, please post them.

Yes, try a different virtual machine, such as Qemu.

Yes, try a different virtual machine, such as Qemu.

Thank you! I will be trying that out shortly and I'll see what happens.