A Horror Idea, Some Screens Created 20 years ago2004-06-09 10:04:10 UTC by Jahzel

@racerx. i would recommend milkshape, its got all the basic functions and if you got a good understanding of milkshape your able to learn a advanced modeler very quik. all the big modelers started out with milkshape. the milkshape website got some good tutorials.

@wcdude. im not sure how im gonna do the dual shotgun. but i got a idea, it wil be the same one, mirrored and it wil be one shot as a double animation

thx

Jeezus! Man, I love it! Nice one Pepper!

I haven't been around for a few days, so forgive me for not replyng too regulary. But appart from this, what a superb shotgun model!

I'll definately test the normal hl replacement model

As for the Jackhammer, I think it could be a great weapon to destroy hoardes of zombies (especially in a narrow corridor don't you think)

Strange weapons you don't normally use in hl mods would be good. For example, I had an idea of a makeshift shotgun with four attatched barrels for a bit more zombie devastation. Maybe -- the quodgun? I dont know, but anyway.. The duel shotguns might be good, but for the sake of realism, it may look a bit o-t-t (But then again so would a quodgun perhaps?! I don't know)

Hey pepper, do you think it'll be possible for zombies to actually try and grab hold of the player to bite/attack him, so let's say, you'll be able to fend them off using your fists/hands/legs/piece of wood or furniture?

A flaming torch/burning wood?

...A lighter and molatov cocktails?

But I agree, we do not want it to slip away from the horror thing. I mean, it won't scare the pants off you if you have two gatling guns with unlimited ammo

Remember, its basically survival stuff. You grab what ever you can for your advantage. Obviously, there could be a particular scene where there seems to be hundreds of zombies and you are not able to kill them all, you just manage to take out the ones nearest to you to survive.

Remember that stupid 'Federal Zombie and Vampire Association' site I mentioned earlier in this thread, well, strangely enough it has some useful information that is relevant to this mod. I.e. Combatting Zombies and Survival Tips etc. This may help with the more realistic side of the horror mod.

Also, I had this Idea a while back when I was at college. I remembered being outside, and there are these stairs that lead to this area below the ground. And I could hear the sounds of shuffling footsteps that seemed to move around aimlessly -- ofcourse it was just an old bin bag in the wind or something but It kick-started ideas in my head about how the zombies could behave.

Anyway, I'll keep you up to date on anything else... blah blah blah.

CHAINSAW!
Maybe in the end of the mod, but still...
Yeargh! MUrrrgh...
VROMM VROMM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOMMM
splatter

...no no:

lawnmower!

Nah only jokeing. It'll be a bit too much like Braindead

What about a door handle?
A computer mouse?
What about pure alcohol? You just spill it onto the zombies to blind them and make their wounds hurt real bad.

Now that's just not nice.

pepper you should model somthing like the Halo/Matrix double rocket lanucher to replace the normal one. just change them a little bit so its not copying
i was once good at modeling to. but since i lost cinima 4d ive basicly forgoten everything

that's a real shame, you never make backup copies.

about the quadpipe-shottie-thing. i first try drawing some concept art about it. and i could make a wooden stick as a begin weapon. for now. im stuck on compiling. i have no cleu what to do

and i have no cleu hwo the halo/matrix rpg looks, but i think it wont be a weapon you will find in a zombie infested city

heres pics of the halo rocket launcherand i cant forget the alien equivelent of it the fuel rod gun. you got to put something like this in just for fun. put it in a lab beneth the city and give the player like five fuel rods and no more for the rest of the game.

Hmm...Mossberg.....reminds me of BFVietnam.

i dont have it. i havent had one paychek in 4 months, they screwed some thing up

Yeah, Pepper is right. I suppose in all seriousness, the player needs to start off with weak weapons such as a chair/stool leg or even a chair/stool (smashable?), a hammer, eventually an axe of some sort perhaps. Later the player may start to build up his weapon inventory with found guns etc. (knicked from dead policemen or zombie police who still have police weapons) A shotgun can be found in the wrecked squadcar etc. We need to keep it more realistic as though it was the event of a zombie infestation. Walking round with an rpg may sound great but it would make this far from 'scary'. Walking round with an old scrap of wood (chair/stool leg) whilst been ambushed by hoardes of zombies will get the adrenaline going.

Ofcourse you get firearms, but is it common to see lots of ammo everywhere you go like most fps?

liek the ammo in hl was rare so it should be in this mod

yea

I think the player should be able to beat with his weapons.
To save ammo. So you could make it even more rare.

Good Idea, what you mean pistol whip and so on?

i think that would be hard.
it would require a new attack, so probalby coding, but i dont knwo excatly how to do that.

Pistol whip would be better that that crappy secondary fire it has. Just add a little bit of crowbar coding. Don't ask me how but thats the effect you'd be looking for.

BTW, screens look cool. I'm inspired.

im making a model of the fuelrod gun in milkshape. don't expectit to look good by any standard, i haven't modeled for a long time and can't remember s#!t about someof the stuff i have to do. but i really would like to see it in game. ill even make a map to put it in

go for it. but it wouldnt work in the mod i must say

be quiet your ruining my hopes and dreams

then dont make it.

i think im going to print out your av and shoot the snark

NOOOOOO.

im just sayign that such a weapon doesnt fit in the mod.

i could if you just put it in a lab with a tiny amount of ammo and never give the player anymore then what they get at the lab.

no, it just dont fit the theme i think

well heres the pic not as good as i hoped but after a few years its accually pretty good. and i think im going to buy another copy of cinima 4d.

lol, it looks good indeed for a long time not modeling, but its no-where near youe reference pic

if i made it like my reference pic it would be copyrightinganyways i wanted to give it a butt plate and a trigger.

Looks too blocky, not so smooth like the original. It will require some reworking to get it right...

But anyway, I thought this topic was about Jahzels scary map/mod?

yeah, whats the polygon count.

i wish jazhel posted some new screenies

hey pepper when i compile it in milkshape i get an error. it says
unknown studio command : triangles
how do you fix that i want to compile the fuelrod gun.

i never had that error

im taking a break for modeling weapons for a few days, i need to finish my ferrari 360 for hlrally, and im also working on a mclaren f1. obviously im willing to make these world models for in a mod(dont think they fit in this one). but the texturing is gonan be the hardest, atleast six hours a car!!

ok, os here is the ferrari 360, i only need to smack a texture on it. the poly count is between 1000-1200.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~dewitnel/peppersplanet/ferrari.jpg

...Yeah, I've been away for a while recently, but I mangaged to type up a brief description of the mod idea so far (I'm not sure what you think yet but here goes: )

[quote]
The cruel reality-television program, Lifeless, watched by thousands all around the world is taking convicted criminals and cutthroats and placing them into the zombie-infested city of [insert city?s name here] to which there is no escape. The city was especially chosen for the game, and its boundaries marked by a huge 63-foot steel perimeter wall, guarded as though a maximum security prison. The complex is watched by thousands of hidden cameras strewn around every corner, everywhere. Supplies are dropped in random locations on a weekly basis by helicopter. The whereabouts of such supplies are not even informed.

The zombie epidemic, created by military-scientific experimentation was originally intended for a form of biological-chemical warfare. However, the project was deemed unpredictable and potentially hazardous, and eventually contained and released into the unfortunate residents and lower income citizens of [insert city?s name
Here]. So as not to spread the epidemic, the perimeter fence was built, and guarded by elite security personnel.

It was this decision, which ultimately leads to the reality television program, Lifeless.

Your name is [insert name here], once convicted for armed robbery and given a 23-year sentence, and now serving a sentence most criminals fear the most; the contestant. You are blindfolded, cuffed, and taken away by helicopter along with five others to an unmarked landing zone somewhere in [insert city?s name here] city. Escapees are instantly captured, and the same process is repeated. The blindfolds and handcuffs are removed, and you begin the game?[/quote]

Ok, well as you can see there are a few things which need to be checked. First of all, I havent decided on a name of the city (any help on that will be great - I even considered using one of those random name generating things you get), and secondly I need a player name - and also, by default I guess, I called this 'Lifeless' -- but again feel free to dispute.

Also, I like the look of that last pic Pepper.

Sounds very good so far. It's not like the most HL mods 'after Gordon killed Nihilanth ...'.
This one shows a lot potential.

I think the crime should be something that isn't really a crime.
Things like 'he knew too much, we had to get rid of him'.
He could have been against this TV show and worked for a coalition that tried to enlighten the people of the cruelty and inhumanity of this show.
Just an idea.
I'm not good at thinking of names, sorry.

@pepper: I can't really say something about it, because it's got no textures yet. But I would add a rear spoiler (is that the right word?).

wait even better he knew to much about the original zombie project. you could maybe even have flashbacks to all the wierd labs. can't tink of any names for the city though but i got on for the guy Gragg rider.

err not rider, just Gragg <insert beter last name here>.

wait even better he knew to much about the original zombie project. you could maybe even have flashbacks to all the wierd labs.

That's a real good idea.

Yeah good Idea. I originally thought he could be innocent, but for some reason I didnt change it as so. But yea, a coalition is a nice idea. I mean how long would it take for someone to go against a fascist regime such as a cruel gameshow.

But basically, it is a whole city (run-down), cordoned-off. You get to go anywhere do anything but just survive. I suppose the way it can be done is almost like making lots of multiplayer maps but all linked together with trigger_changelevel's. That was a way I thought it could be done, but I'm not too sure yet. Thing is, should this be tried out on Half-life -- and then progressed to Half-life 2?

Also one more thing. If this is to be the mod, perhaps, I really need some new textures -- none that I have really found seem the kind I really want. There are suprisingly, not many city-urban textures out there. The ones on Wadftaher are alright, but I was thinking a bit more differently.... :

Yeah, maybe he WAS one of the ones responsible or one of the ones that had to be responsible for the epidemic. Maybe they knew he was a threat to the project and produced a criminal accusation for him, and sent to the city as a contestant.

Have you ever seen 'The Prisoner?' well it is kind of like that, a city/town to which there is no escape, even if you think you've escaped you are instantly captured and taken back in the same way you were taken in.

ore movei wiht swarchenegger, same kind of idea

what you mean the running man? Yeah, I suppose as well yea

yeah, i think so, for nwo im playing far cry

im thinking hes a scape-goat for the projects failure >> is innocent of any crimes >> but knew to much about the project and got sent to the city to be eaten/killed.

and you can't have just a bunch of maps linked theres got to be only a few ways to get into different sectors of the city. because most of it is prbably trashed and people trying to keep safe would probably put up quite a few roadblocks. then there always a subway sytem.

You could also add quests and different human clans. A few people that sticked toghether to help each other surviving.
Maybe somekind of dealer, that can provide weapons and ammo for services in return.

...And, because you want to claim somewhere as your territory for safety and refuge - there could be other people to deal with - who may not be so happy about you wanting to be in there area.

I like the scapegoat idea -- that's a definate.

The subway system - huge, dark, abandonned, full of contestants - I like the sound of it!

Yeah, realistically, the contestants would begin to form their own different clans in order to survive, I suppose as would a herd of wilderbeast etc. A dealer maybe good, but the times have to be very tough, and it all goes down to anything that can help you survive.