f you deselect (hide) a visgroup, it won't compile, and therefore won't be included in-game.I don't think that's true. If i hide the sky visgroup in my map the sky still compiles... I do think this is true in source mapping though?
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lul never even heard of this command, what does it do? = )
Can the entrance and exit be one thing?what do you mean? if you mean one door for the whole room then no. If you mean can the entrance and exit door be the same style, then yes : )
Urban: you can have those things but they cannot be accessible to the player: i.e. you can have windows looking out to an external area but the player can't walk out there. you can have closets but put something in the way so you can't enter it.
Even if you're original idea won't work why not submit a room anyway? (aw i was excited when you said you'd enter) What was your original idea?
Edit: plus i make a informal challenge to the source version: The team to get 10 rooms submitted first is a winnar. (that's at one submission per person)
I'm half-cocked approaching full...
HAPPY NEW YEAR GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY1!
HAPPY NEW YEAR GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY1!
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I dunno enough about spirit to know the answer to that. would everyone need spirit installed and can you teleport from a spirit map to a regular map?
edit: i'll look at the source version rules srry mentioned and we'll probably adopt them?
editx2: I just looked at the source rules they sound good, just upload your map with everything i need including source file, lights.rad and gfx, wads etc whatever you use.
Maps i can connect without teleports i will do so, and i'll only use teleports as needed... take each map on a case-by-case basis i guess. how does that sound?
@raver: how?
@JeffMOD: yay you're the first, but you have to edit your map before i can add it. (comments in map vault)
1. rooms must have one entrance and one exit.
2. No secret rooms or other accessible areas... 1 room that's it = )
can we have traps?.. can we have combat?...sure, just remember it has to be one room and one room only.
edit: i'll look at the source version rules srry mentioned and we'll probably adopt them?
editx2: I just looked at the source rules they sound good, just upload your map with everything i need including source file, lights.rad and gfx, wads etc whatever you use.
Maps i can connect without teleports i will do so, and i'll only use teleports as needed... take each map on a case-by-case basis i guess. how does that sound?
@raver: how?
@JeffMOD: yay you're the first, but you have to edit your map before i can add it. (comments in map vault)
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@everybody: a couple clarifications:1. rooms must have one entrance and one exit.
2. No secret rooms or other accessible areas... 1 room that's it = )
yah but what's the point of a desktop with nothing on it? = )
are their any rules besides it has to be a room? how about additional content like models and textures? or is it defaults only?Use anything you want.
@Srry: HOly cow you bring up lots of potential problems i never thought about... i have a couple potential suggestions:
1. Include all your custom contetnt: wads,sprites,models etc., plus your .rmf, and i'll add them all to one big mod folder. Provide the correct directory structure: i.e. valve/maps, sprites, sound, models. Note with this method you wouldn't be able to use your own sky or lights.rad wich are big downfalls...
2. we'd have to use teleports when you reach the door to the next room, which would allow you to include any content you want plus custom texlights and sky. Still upload your map with the proper directory structure as listed above and also make sure to include your gfx folder and lights.rad, and .rmf file(i'd have to map transition hallways, becuase it would look better than just teleporting from room to room)
3. if somebody has a better idea or variation of what we should do please speak up and we'll go by the best suggestions.
well fuck me running i'll keep trying. Satchmo and Chickenfist has x64 maybe they could try if they are listening?
I'll try reinstalling and some other stuff, since the only way i can get steam to work without an internet connection is to put my laptop on standby when i leave an access point(offline mode fails for me 75% of the time and i have no idea why. It sucks...
edit: if i revert my dx10 to dx9 will that help? Is it possible dx10 is screwing it up?
I'll try reinstalling and some other stuff, since the only way i can get steam to work without an internet connection is to put my laptop on standby when i leave an access point(offline mode fails for me 75% of the time and i have no idea why. It sucks...
edit: if i revert my dx10 to dx9 will that help? Is it possible dx10 is screwing it up?
what probably happened is it didn't actuall save and you lost it after the crash... i dunno think the cordon tool was the culprit imo.
as far as retrieving your map, i would just say rebuild it as horrible as it sounds (you'd be surprised how much better you rebuild it ;)). did you make any backups of the map at all?
as far as retrieving your map, i would just say rebuild it as horrible as it sounds (you'd be surprised how much better you rebuild it ;)). did you make any backups of the map at all?
yeah i agree but like havin stuff right at my fingertips with minimal folder clicking. the whole right side is system maintenance related stuff which i use alot. the top is my main bar with programs i use on a regular basis(mostly} and the left is all "to do" overflow.
i usually don't have so much crap showing on the desktop itself, but i've gotten messy and distracted lately = )
i usually don't have so much crap showing on the desktop itself, but i've gotten messy and distracted lately = )
gameplay should supersede graphicsya i agree totally. i was just playin assasin's creed and i noticed halfway through the game i never once took time to really appreciate my surroundings or how nice everything looked, i just focused on the gameplay. course if stuff looks really bad it will distract from the gameplay i suppose.
As for the displacements i'm a source noob but i look forward to using them when i start up source mapping! = )
Yay happy to see the interest cuz i didn't know how people would respond... Sweet! = )
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K that's the last question(i think). Soooo... upload a room already!
what about halls?dunno use the one provided or make you're own i guess.
Source version of thistotally. someone who is good at source editing should host it, i'm a total source newb.
Goldsource sucksyes and no. it's very limited but you can still do amazing things with it. plus my favourite plus about hl1 editing is everything is quick and easy to do.
No. Source is the devil's engine.QFT. = )
Is it going to be a SP or MP map?No gameplay intended so i suppose SP.
I have no hl1 anymoreREINSTALL NOW!! {or just join the source version aww)
Could we get the size of enter/exit doors? Or at least the size of the hallway connecting the rooms.There is no standard beyond the ones included in my first map. Use those or make your own. (off-size doors between enrties will need an "adapter" hallway to accomodate a door that won't fit in the previous entries hallway. I'll adapt as needed to connect rooms. = )
Can we use Opfor textures tooI don't care as long as they are wad included to the bsp. I will not hunt for any wads, none. = )
How about turning this into a competition? The one who makes the most interesting room wins.I don't see why not but i don't want that to be the main focus of the thing. Keep in mind you can always update your room, so no reason to spend a million hours making it absolutely perfect the first time.
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K that's the last question(i think). Soooo... upload a room already!
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Nice Chicken/madcow. It actually loads a black screen now instead of crashing, but that's about it. Anybody have WON installed on their own vista machine? (just wondering if it's a Vista issue or an x64 issue)
Rooms
Build a room and post a link to it in this thread.
It can be big or small, fancy or plain, but it has to be just one room. I'll connect each room to the next and we'll end up (hopefully) with a big chain of rooms made by our members, that's it.
Rooms will be added as they are recieved. I haven't decided if a standard connecting hallway and/or a standard portal enter/exiting should be used, or if we should really call it "Build a room plus a connecting hallway", lol.
I've built the first room
It includes a generic connecting hallway (I guess for now you decide if want to use it or not. As(if) maps are uploaded i'll compile the lot and post a link to the latest, complete version.
If you submit a room and update it after it's been already added, simply submit a new link and i'll recompile with your latest version. My own room is not 100% complete as i have to add texturing, some effects and some moar detail.
So, what do you think?
Build a room and post a link to it in this thread.
It can be big or small, fancy or plain, but it has to be just one room. I'll connect each room to the next and we'll end up (hopefully) with a big chain of rooms made by our members, that's it.
Rooms will be added as they are recieved. I haven't decided if a standard connecting hallway and/or a standard portal enter/exiting should be used, or if we should really call it "Build a room plus a connecting hallway", lol.
I've built the first room
If you submit a room and update it after it's been already added, simply submit a new link and i'll recompile with your latest version. My own room is not 100% complete as i have to add texturing, some effects and some moar detail.
So, what do you think?
Aw that really blows all my other 32-bit applications work..
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Is there a command line switch to force WON to use DirectX upon startup? Pengy said that might work, but i can't get in there to even change it.If you listen to Muzz's suggestions you won't have a problem, especially with the texture scales and func_illusionary + clipbrush complicated stuff to give you more clipnodes. (the only part i vary on is i always use cliptype simple to get the most clipnodes)
I'll take a look at the map too, but i think Muzz covered everything
a good example is if you have 2 pieces of fence butting up at a corner and they are transparent textures. if you make both of the pieces of fence the same entity, you will get splitting or be able to "see through" or HOM effect on parts of the fence. Making the fence walls individual func_wall entities fixes this as muzz was saying.
I'll take a look at the map too, but i think Muzz covered everything
- 2 or more brushes that are in the same entity group meet.totally, but sometimes you can get away with it without a problem. sometimes you run out of the number of solid entites you can make so you have no choice to group them together. I actually do it all the time as long as there is no visible visual errors.
a good example is if you have 2 pieces of fence butting up at a corner and they are transparent textures. if you make both of the pieces of fence the same entity, you will get splitting or be able to "see through" or HOM effect on parts of the fence. Making the fence walls individual func_wall entities fixes this as muzz was saying.
@Strider: That's a neat idea i will try it = )
I could always see the seems where the images met up. I guess all the images have to be fisheyed or something.Yeah me too. i wish there was a photoshop plugin or a better program developed to make half-life sky easy. Maybe someone knows of one? It seems like it'd be a relatively simple thing to code but meh.
If you made a big box around your map like that, wouldn't you have to set the view distance incredibly far in hammer, which would kill your 3D view framerate?Depends on your video card. my old computer would not have liked it one bit, and the 3D view in hammer would be very "jumpy". Shouldn't be a problem with a decent gfx card.
Yes, he needs to be institutionalised and receive some help, but jail time won't solve anything, except getting him off the streets - something institutionalising would do too.I dunno, this kind of falls under the umbrella for me for pedophiles and rapists, and other offenders of such unspeakable crimes.. When you commit a crime so heinous--in this case killing your damn parents--, I think the issue should be one of public safety. (the public and the gene pool are safer if you're not around anymore)
I guess i don't personally see the point of preserving someones well-being who blatantly disregards someone elses, insane or not. As to what to do, i like the movies like Escape From NY (starring Mr. Kurt Russell) where they just dump the crazies and mother rapers on an island and let them do whatever they like.
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[/end christmas eve rant]Hi i tried installing won on my vista x64 (because offline mode for Steam NEVER works), but i get this message:
Anyone know if it's possible to get it to work? I guess i can use Crafty to playtest my maps when i don't have Steam available, but It would be great if i could get WON to work...
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Great turnout and some exceptional entries for this one. Congrats to hlife_hotdog and the rest of the winners and entrants, bravo.
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yeah, like this one:
I like you saw1833. 
Yeah i agree Mr. esmajor does not desrve the massive fail image, but i'd like to see it just cuz it's been sooo long since i've seen it. Don't even think i can remember what it looks like, aww.
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You pretty much can't get away with killing someone just because they broke into your house, from what I understand. They're in the graveyard and you're in jail.Sorry, if some <expletive> <highly offensive slur> broke into my house, it's game on. I don't even own a gun, so hopefully my 9-iron would be enough = /
Hopefully i'd get a temporary insanity plea or get out early for good behavior, else you're right i'd have to sew up my bum bum. (Residents of Florida and Texas need not worry about this)
edit: btw, jews did wtc.
Say someone breaks into your house and you get your gun. All he would have to do is to run away. It's not like you could shoot him. Your gun wouldn't help at all.He could could try to run, lol
Compile tip:
I now take a brightly-textlighted arrow and move it to the most recent spot i changed, right before a compile. I do this to make sure the compile actually went through. If you compile, go in-game and don't see the arrow where it should be, you know some stupid error stopped your compile from completing normally.
I dunno how many times i've edited a map repeatedly, and can't figure out why a problem area is still screwed up, only to find out the map wasn't actually compiling. If you're changing something drastic of course, using a marker would not be necessary, but i'm amazed at how many times a dumb brushing error borked my compile and i didn't even know.
Hopefully this will save some time and unneeded problems = )
edit: here's a pic:
I now take a brightly-textlighted arrow and move it to the most recent spot i changed, right before a compile. I do this to make sure the compile actually went through. If you compile, go in-game and don't see the arrow where it should be, you know some stupid error stopped your compile from completing normally.
I dunno how many times i've edited a map repeatedly, and can't figure out why a problem area is still screwed up, only to find out the map wasn't actually compiling. If you're changing something drastic of course, using a marker would not be necessary, but i'm amazed at how many times a dumb brushing error borked my compile and i didn't even know.
Hopefully this will save some time and unneeded problems = )
edit: here's a pic:
yup create one.
as well models, sprites, sound folders, etc. (copy models and sprites from the gcf to the respective folders so you can see them in hammer 3.5)
as well models, sprites, sound folders, etc. (copy models and sprites from the gcf to the respective folders so you can see them in hammer 3.5)
'How to Make Rain
Guns are good if you live in remote areas and have to defend yourself against bears, coyotes, lions, assorted mountain cats, vampires, etc.
Just tried it works fine for me:
edit: as cactus said i guess you don't need to use vhe 3.5, but why wouldn't you want to? You get model support in hammer which works great. (you must also unpack your models and sprites using gcfscape to your your "models" and "sprites" directories in steam\half-life\valve directory if you want them to show up in hammer)
yeah you put the fgd in the fgd folder and then go into hammer and pick that fgd. You took the sprites folder "CS" and dropped it into your hammer\sprites folder too?
You also have to have the hammer 3.5 beta executable. you just copy/paste it to your vhe directory. You can tell if it went through because this will pop up quickly when you open hammer:
i'll give it a try too if somebody tells me how to create a new profile under hammer options (like one for HL, CS, DoD, etc.) i can't figure out how to make a new profile! = )
You also have to have the hammer 3.5 beta executable. you just copy/paste it to your vhe directory. You can tell if it went through because this will pop up quickly when you open hammer:
looks nice sajo did you not just post those somewhere?
Guinea pirate looks good and i like the detail. is that of a real place you know?
RotorSplint those look amazing and you're doing animations now?! o_O
Zeeba looks good from the thumb--doesn't expand for me--, but looks like it could use more smoothing in some areas.
Guinea pirate looks good and i like the detail. is that of a real place you know?
RotorSplint those look amazing and you're doing animations now?! o_O
Zeeba looks good from the thumb--doesn't expand for me--, but looks like it could use more smoothing in some areas.
i have a midi ringer for the street fighter 2 intro lol. = )
Bystanders: Enjoy all the commotion. = )
lul at Striker
Dude that looks like a pretty big cup... are you sure you're not drinking out of soup bowls with handles?
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Shite you're right, they have sprites for every entity it looks like...
Catcus: Direct Download from DNV Cross in case you didn't have it.
Catcus: Direct Download from DNV Cross in case you didn't have it.
I would kill everyone in this forum for that coffee cup. So pwn...
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Not all 32-bit but most. I've only had a couple things not work but i can't think of any right now. Well besides Zone Alarm...
edit: just checked zone alarm and it says version 7.1 supports vista so it'll probably work in x64 too. (trying now) There used to be a x64 beta of zone alarm but it's no longer available.
edit x2: NOpe, guess not:
I'm sure after googling a while you've found this semi-helpful site for x64 friendly programs?
edit: just checked zone alarm and it says version 7.1 supports vista so it'll probably work in x64 too. (trying now) There used to be a x64 beta of zone alarm but it's no longer available.
edit x2: NOpe, guess not:
Yeah i never had to worry about my avatar or username around kids, but at work i used to get embarassed if my coworkers saw some of the other avatars on here... like one of the old regulars used to have avatars of sexy asian french maids, with quirky captions like: "May I help you?"
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the model support definitely works for cs but i haven't mapped for cs in a while and i can't remember what fgd you have to use. If you try all the ones you can find you should find one that works.
You're still going to get blocks for most of the entities btw. the only entities i can think of that you get sprites for off the top of my head are ambient_generics and light entities, and obv the gordon model for info_player_start. Beyond that I can't think of any other entities that have sprites like that. = /
You're still going to get blocks for most of the entities btw. the only entities i can think of that you get sprites for off the top of my head are ambient_generics and light entities, and obv the gordon model for info_player_start. Beyond that I can't think of any other entities that have sprites like that. = /
Not true I think we should try it. I think it would light a fire for mappers and judges both to finish up because the final deadline would be "fuzzy".
Besides, I don't see how anything could possibly make the results take longer than they do already... i just don't think that's possible! = )
Please doon't smite/strike me Strider/penqy! i love you...
Besides, I don't see how anything could possibly make the results take longer than they do already... i just don't think that's possible! = )
Please doon't smite/strike me Strider/penqy! i love you...
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Lots of nice stuff in here.
Striker: lol@campaign editor. fun to do and sc2 campaign editor should be amazing.
Hunter: makes me want to try gmod = )
Striker: lol@campaign editor. fun to do and sc2 campaign editor should be amazing.
Hunter: makes me want to try gmod = )
How could you forget the (quite possibly) most offensive username ever created?
Hi Hrny = )
Don't change your name it's cool, but if you feel you must, change it to penisjuice or <==3...both much more mature than HrnyGoat. = P
Did Ant really go? (nah can't be)
Don't change your name it's cool, but if you feel you must, change it to penisjuice or <==3...both much more mature than HrnyGoat. = P
Did Ant really go? (nah can't be)
I've never seen a Desktop HDD with a speed of less than 7200RPM (in the last, say, 5 years?)Lawl i really didn't know that! I guess it makes sense since the last desktop i built/owned was an amd K6 450MHZ or something like that back in the late '90s. I remember that chipset severely conflicting with my ATI All-in-wonder card and my system would crash all the time till i put a voodoo card in... ah the memories = )
lol that would be funny to accept submissions right up until the day of judging/results. It would actually be interesting to see how it affected the number of submissions, actually.
Like for example, if all the judging was done but someone new submitted, you/d have to add that into the mix and hope to release the new results before someone else submitted a new one, lol.
Like for example, if all the judging was done but someone new submitted, you/d have to add that into the mix and hope to release the new results before someone else submitted a new one, lol.
The things on the right are "to do" reminders, and you're right, the only way i can tell what they are is to hover over them. The alternatives i like less, because if i just throw them in a folder, i'll never look at them again, and i'd rather not clutter my desktop with more crap either.
As for the classic theme: why fuck with perfection? As for the 3-toolbar setuup, i dunno what to tell you i like it, and i'm sorry
I appreciate your suggestions and comments. I'll let them marinate for a while, and maybe after a while, make a change like a new theme or sumthin.
As for the classic theme: why fuck with perfection? As for the 3-toolbar setuup, i dunno what to tell you i like it, and i'm sorry
I appreciate your suggestions and comments. I'll let them marinate for a while, and maybe after a while, make a change like a new theme or sumthin.
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edit: thanks for calling my brushed d0g awesome. = )You mean my picture? it's from one of own my maps that's why, lol.