Post your screenshots! WIP thread
Created 16 years ago2007-12-16 00:58:58 UTC by
doodle
Created 16 years ago2007-12-16 00:58:58 UTC by
doodle
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 11:22:27 UTC
Post #334434
Snehk this starting to look really good for low poly
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 11:44:57 UTC
Post #334435
"It's not about the poly count, it's how you use those polys."
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 12:13:33 UTC
Post #334436
@Admer456
It looks like I need to try mapping for CryEngine 1 myself.
@Snehk
How long have you been developing your mod?
It looks like I need to try mapping for CryEngine 1 myself.
@Snehk
How long have you been developing your mod?
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 12:44:23 UTC
Post #334437
Thanks! Actually it's my first such well done model. I started with a cylinder and extruded/scaled it/moved single verts.
I started working on my mod like month or two ago, just been taking very slow and lazy moves, being a bit busy with courses and ending technical.
I started working on my mod like month or two ago, just been taking very slow and lazy moves, being a bit busy with courses and ending technical.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 15:49:10 UTC
Post #334439
My first decent outdoor map:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 15:55:54 UTC
Post #334440
Nice, it has the bumpiness of ts_untergrund or something. 
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 16:17:41 UTC
Post #334441
I'm actually just training. When I understand all this terrain stuff better I'll try to make C&C-Under for Half-Life.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 16:46:49 UTC
Post #334442
Learn some stuff about 3D geometry, and then apply that knowledge onto a map and you'll pretty much know everything about it.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 21:52:19 UTC
Post #334445
Looking really cool, Windawz. You could try using BEVEL instead of NULL on terrain like that. It'll produce more precise clipping, though it'll skyrocket towards compile limits on larger maps.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 22:22:47 UTC
Post #334446
I don't think that's how BEVEL works arch, if anything bevel creates less precise clipping as it deactivates the clipnode on the face it is applied to.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-17 22:26:42 UTC
Post #334447
Well call me an uneducated dickhead.
It certainly seems to have that effect. No idea what it's actually doing during the compile, though, I'm just basing it off the result. I use it quite regularly on terrain to get better player movement.
It certainly seems to have that effect. No idea what it's actually doing during the compile, though, I'm just basing it off the result. I use it quite regularly on terrain to get better player movement.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 01:08:28 UTC
Post #334451
I was always under the impression BEVEL was like an anti-clip brush, used to trim clipnodes rather than create them. I'm not sure where I got that from, though. Never used them myself.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 03:32:23 UTC
Post #334453
BEVEL reduces clipnodes.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 03:37:26 UTC
Post #334454
I think bevel has something to do with making less clip nodes.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 04:11:04 UTC
Post #334455
I've read somewhere that, unlike null, you can pass through bevel so it reduces clipnodes. I'll set all Null faces to bevel ones then.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 04:14:14 UTC
Post #334456
Lol, I used Null for the terrain in ts_untergrund. The only problems I had were when I converted the terrain into a func_detail. Yeah, MAX_CLIPNODES_EXCEEDED. I did that solely for VIS reasons because it took forever to compile (have you seen the size of that map?).
So I reverted them back to world brushes.
So I reverted them back to world brushes.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 04:38:30 UTC
Post #334457
I'm not going to oversize it I think. It will be a classic HL level with smooth transitions from structures to terrain. Also I've not used levelchanges yet in any of my maps (lol), so I will learn even more with this piece of brushwork. Also, converting terrain to func_detail sounds interesting, but I will have some problems with sealing the map I think.
Oh, and Bevel makes my eyes hurt even more than null does:
Oh, and Bevel makes my eyes hurt even more than null does:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 04:41:04 UTC
Post #334458
I find Bevel quite soothing 
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 05:24:35 UTC
Post #334459
At least it's not transparent for you since you use Sledge. Jackhammer makes all special textures look transparent and it's good, but not always good.
EDIT: Used custom textures instead of the original ones. Now it looks like Renegade's first level and also reminds me of C&C-Walls:
EDIT: Used custom textures instead of the original ones. Now it looks like Renegade's first level and also reminds me of C&C-Walls:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 06:06:14 UTC
Post #334460
@Windawz
But you can always toggle the transparency of some textures as well as the visibility of the Null texture.
But you can always toggle the transparency of some textures as well as the visibility of the Null texture.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 06:08:50 UTC
Post #334461
Well, I think I'll get used to Bevel somewhen.
Half-Life is perfect for making profile pics:
Half-Life is perfect for making profile pics:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 07:52:14 UTC
Post #334462
It's EXCELLENT for lots of stuff...
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 08:22:53 UTC
Post #334466
Um... Isn't SOLIDHINT texture designed specially to glue brushes efficiently?
At least it really helps to avoid getting faces broken into pieces by compiler. I use it on all invisible adjacent faces.
At least it really helps to avoid getting faces broken into pieces by compiler. I use it on all invisible adjacent faces.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 08:51:14 UTC
Post #334467
Added some sky brushes:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 10:38:27 UTC
Post #334469
For a couple years now I've consistently used BEVEL; only ever use NULL when I experience some clipping oddities caused by bevel, most usually curved surfaces.
There was a thread here ages ago that argued SKY being better than both, however I haven't reached that point of death yet
wait, why are you listening to the Twisted Insurrection soundtrack? I know it's meant to be industrial.. but it's pretty garbage
There was a thread here ages ago that argued SKY being better than both, however I haven't reached that point of death yet
wait, why are you listening to the Twisted Insurrection soundtrack? I know it's meant to be industrial.. but it's pretty garbage
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 10:39:19 UTC
Post #334471
Darn, in Quake there's no Null...
But instead, there's Skip.
But instead, there's Skip.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 10:47:01 UTC
Post #334472
@Instant Mix
I have quite strange tastes. At least I don't listen to russian rap
I have quite strange tastes. At least I don't listen to russian rap
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 11:03:15 UTC
Post #334473
"I have quite strange tastes."Hah, wait until you see my playlist.
"Oh, and Bevel makes my eyes hurt even more than null does."Well make your own Bevel and Null textures.
I once made my own AAATrigger texture for the lolz (I used my brother's face).
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 11:32:27 UTC
Post #334475
@Admer456
You mean I can change any tool texture? Will it still work after that?
You mean I can change any tool texture? Will it still work after that?
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 12:14:23 UTC
Post #334477
As long as they have the correct name, they should work without issue. I have my own urbydev.wad with colour coded tool textures.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 14:47:22 UTC
Post #334480
Finished the outdoor area. Here are some screenshots:
And with dynamic skybox enabled:
Now I just need to finish the caves.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 15:27:52 UTC
Post #334481
Oh, the caves... if you want I can lend you some pre-made sections. Though, it's best when you learn it yourself, lol.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 15:34:06 UTC
Post #334482
@Admer456
I already know how to make them. You need to flip your ground terrain over:
I already know how to make them. You need to flip your ground terrain over:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 15:51:40 UTC
Post #334483
loooks great windawz for what is this exactly?
for what is this exactly?
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 16:04:52 UTC
Post #334484
@Trempler
It's for HL. I'm just training yet to later use my terrain-creating skills and remake C&C-Under for Half-Life. You inspired me to make some C&C-themed stuff with your Nod temple map. I still have it as the wallpaper btw
It's for HL. I'm just training yet to later use my terrain-creating skills and remake C&C-Under for Half-Life. You inspired me to make some C&C-themed stuff with your Nod temple map. I still have it as the wallpaper btw
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-18 16:48:34 UTC
Post #334485
Never liked the original AAATRIGGER. This texture is much better:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 00:15:46 UTC
Post #334488
Completely reworked the layout.
Also redid the machinery in the generator room.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 13:33:25 UTC
Post #334489
@Victor-933
This room looks great with any layout. I also suggest you to put some railing at the staircase.
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Guess what that thing is going to be:
This room looks great with any layout. I also suggest you to put some railing at the staircase.
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Guess what that thing is going to be:
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 14:44:31 UTC
Post #334492
I bet it is the Dildo of Nod !
Also cool that I gave you some ideas and the motivation to do some CNC stuff can´t wait for more to see
Also cool that I gave you some ideas and the motivation to do some CNC stuff
can´t wait for more to see
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 17:56:09 UTC
Post #334497
I also wonder if I can somehow extract Renegade's data and use some of it's models for HL. But if there's no way to do that then I can try to model things I need myself. Thanks to mapping I've started to use and learn Photoshop and why not to try to get some skill in 3DS Max?
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 18:51:13 UTC
Post #334498
Another update. Took me the longest to model, I suck at modelling hands...
Smoothing preview:
Above 860 polies with quads. Goes up to 1800 after triangulation.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 19:11:26 UTC
Post #334499
If it is used as an NPC model in the half-life mod you're making the amount of epolys will be crazy. People with weak PCs may experience FPS drops because of that... Oh come on, how can I talk about the optimization if you get 1800 wpolys on dm_ascension at certain places?
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 19:29:44 UTC
Post #334500
I get confused when people talk about 2000 wpolies being high in 2017. The Core hits 6000 regularly and it runs just fine on a budget laptop. Just how wooden are these PCs that you're limiting yourself so strictly on wpolies for?
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 19:37:35 UTC
Post #334501
@Windawz
It's not for a half-life mod. I'm making my project under Darkplaces engine following a mod->standalone approach (starting with quake mod using engine enhanced features, then moving to standalone once all quake dependencies are removed).
I make those models low-poly because I'm not aiming for extreme graphics, rather something that looks good enough but with great gameplay. And that's my first NPC model I ever made
It's not for a half-life mod. I'm making my project under Darkplaces engine following a mod->standalone approach (starting with quake mod using engine enhanced features, then moving to standalone once all quake dependencies are removed).
I make those models low-poly because I'm not aiming for extreme graphics, rather something that looks good enough but with great gameplay. And that's my first NPC model I ever made
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 19:50:21 UTC
Post #334502
Actually Archie, when it comes to MP wpolys still matter even on good hardware because the engine slows down there and you get MS/higher latency/lag.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 20:22:06 UTC
Post #334503
@Snehk
Oh ok then. Great gameplay is a great idea. Do you have a concept of it?
@Archie
Because of high amounts of wpolys people like Admer won't be able to play it. But dm_ascension is worth playing, believe me, and it's so bad that somebody can play it only at 10-20 fps. At least DM-Fractal has low wpolys (300-400), but the funniest thing about it is that I didn't optimize it, the map is just that simple
I also have 8 Gb RAM and GTX 750 so my PC is not that wooden
Oh ok then. Great gameplay is a great idea. Do you have a concept of it?
@Archie
Because of high amounts of wpolys people like Admer won't be able to play it. But dm_ascension is worth playing, believe me, and it's so bad that somebody can play it only at 10-20 fps. At least DM-Fractal has low wpolys (300-400), but the funniest thing about it is that I didn't optimize it, the map is just that simple
I also have 8 Gb RAM and GTX 750 so my PC is not that wooden
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-19 20:50:21 UTC
Post #334504
Yes, I've written a setting for it and a story that starts simple, then gets more and more complex. Already written down most of ideas I had for it, and I'm still coming up with more additions.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-20 07:15:31 UTC
Post #334506
"The Core hits 6000 regularly and it runs just fine on a budget laptop."I doubt it would run on my peanut laptop. :3
Edit:
Well, Intel HD Graphics 3000 is perfect for GoldSrc games. That's what lower-budget laptops usually have. But my laptop has an Intel GMA 965, so it's considered an antique laptop, lol.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-20 08:23:09 UTC
Post #334507
10 year old laptops are really considered "edge cases", practically nobody uses them for anything gaming related. I wouldn't even consider leaving out graphical details for the 10 of you who run these pc's.
Posted 7 years ago2017-04-20 08:23:19 UTC
Post #334508
I had the same GPU paired with pentium dual in my previous laptop, which I used for like three years. Yeah, it's as good GPU as a wooden floor board. Managed to play BF2 with pretty decent framerate on screen native resolution with some customization. Witcher 1 stuttered like crazy in more graphics intensive areas though.
Good that I changed my rig in august...
Good that I changed my rig in august...
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