Competition 31 Created 7 years ago2011-09-18 00:28:59 UTC by Strider Strider

Created 7 years ago2011-09-18 00:28:59 UTC by Strider Strider

Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 07:18:47 UTC Post #299379
I just started sketching something, looked for a glass texture and was about to say that you forgot adding it. The thumbnail didn't look at all as a glass texture, but then I noticed the name :D.
Striker StrikerI seriously doubt myself
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 09:09:55 UTC Post #299380
i am going to map a single player map... i dont like deathmatches
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 11:01:43 UTC Post #299381
I've seen some of these textures before, or at least parts of them. I think we use the same source! :]
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 14:29:57 UTC Post #299389
Excuse me gentlemens but I haz question!

Is really the rule "no custom models" necessary? If so what does it mean?
  • Only models from the GCF-files in steamapps folder are allowed?
  • Can I use HL and CZ models in a CS map?
  • Or are we allowed to use any model that is already existing?
  • What aboot decals.wad?
Also, nice textures are nice and this is gonna be fun :)
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 14:53:14 UTC Post #299392
I presume that "no custom models" means that if you have to move them from one folder to another, you're breaking the rules.
Strider said that the map won't be judged on models anyway, so there's very little point in using custom ones.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 15:07:45 UTC Post #299394
well i need some textures just pure colors, yellow, blue so can i use fx color value?
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 15:54:44 UTC Post #299395
fx color has to be allowed its an engine function, not a texture. besides the textures being used arent changed.
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 16:19:08 UTC Post #299398
the two carbon fibre materials (c31_metal2a, c31_metal2b) use a surfaceprop which only works in HL2 & episodes, not CSS or L4D or anything, so if you're mapping for them, change the vmt so that
"$surfaceprop" "combine_metal"
reads
"$surfaceprop" "metal"

my bad
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 18:24:59 UTC Post #299404
There are only two light textures, that's kinda limited. Are we allowed to use light textures from halflife.wad? Because i think spot lights as well as large industrial lights are pretty common in industrial areas.

I say the only textures from halflife.wad that you're allowed to use are tool textures and light textures, nothing else.
The Mad Carrot The Mad CarrotMad Carrot
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 20:18:06 UTC Post #299407
That's part of the challenge muzz :):)
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 22:34:53 UTC Post #299415
What is the word on Decals? Plus, nice texture choices. So far it is all blending together fairly nicely! =]
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-25 23:59:30 UTC Post #299416
My two cents: decals and overlays shouldn't be allowed. I originally thought the exact opposite, but I think that with the entire point of this competition being creating something unique with a limited palette, allowing decals would somewhat undermine that.

Lights for Goldsource, I'm not too sure about, though. Source mappers have the advantage of a very wide selection of light props, whereas Goldsourcers have to stick with those two included textures. Not sure how fair that is (or are the two engines being judged separately again?)
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 00:29:46 UTC Post #299417
All is good
All is fine
Start this comp
And end this rhyme
Dimbeak DimbeakRotten Bastard
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 02:11:53 UTC Post #299419
dimbark can win this compo; he shows much promise in mapping you know
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 05:04:34 UTC Post #299421
Do custom skies count as custom textures?
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 05:12:19 UTC Post #299422
I think you guys are reading too much into this.

Use the textures the compo provides you with and vanilla everything else.
God dammit.
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 05:40:00 UTC Post #299424
Actually doodle raises a good point, in order for it to be more thematic, a custom sky texture for the pack wouldn't hurt.
Crollo CrolloTrollo
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 05:48:09 UTC Post #299425
No custom content is allowed at all.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 06:10:42 UTC Post #299427
:rly:

Oh well, will work something out.
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 06:13:28 UTC Post #299428
Those textures you selected look alright, but you're missing a water texture... and what about all the function textures?
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 06:42:48 UTC Post #299429
Check the rules on the compo page.
Tool textures are fine, as they're obviously necessary
TheGrimReafer TheGrimReaferADMININATOR
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 07:30:16 UTC Post #299430
Wait, it began already? ...and what about the water texture? Can I use any water texture?

edit: oh wait there is water, but it's slimey :/
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 07:48:59 UTC Post #299431
If every texture you wanted to use was in the set, that would defeat the entire purpose of the competition. You need to work with what you have available to create you entry. Now can everybody stop complaining?

And Strider, answer the damn decal question already!
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 08:14:40 UTC Post #299432
No decals!
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 09:45:43 UTC Post #299433
Fine. I will take these textures and give you the most amazing map I've ever created.
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 10:04:08 UTC Post #299434
Is really the rule "no custom models" necessary? If so what does it mean?
Models are allowed, but remember that's not what we're judging.

ps. zhlt.wad is allowed too :)

i have been working on the competition map since yesterday:
screen -> http://i.imgur.com/6Mxd5.jpg

^^
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 10:16:07 UTC Post #299435
Use the textures the compo provides you with and vanilla everything else.
God dammit.
Seriously. Some of you guys show just how many questions you asked during a school test. That's how you behave.
Striker StrikerI seriously doubt myself
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 16:29:30 UTC Post #299448
@Strider
No decals!? You wanna see no decals, ey?
I'll show you no decals! Just wait...
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 18:26:59 UTC Post #299449
.<
Lmfao.
Gotta play by the rules dude.
I think we're lucky we got such a high-quality texture set. (Thanks to Archie and Strider)
The challenge is having a limited pallette. I have a few ideas sketched out but really... none of my maps ever follow a set structure.. just let the ideas flow and see what you can come up with. =]
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-26 18:59:15 UTC Post #299450
i have been working on the competition map since yesterday:
screen -> http://i.imgur.com/6Mxd5.jpg
Oh you bitch.
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 00:25:44 UTC Post #299459
So far I got a funky lookin sewer.
Dimbeak DimbeakRotten Bastard
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 03:07:26 UTC Post #299461
er, I'm making 255 solid func_walls of those grating textures and blue parts still show up? What to do?
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 03:31:41 UTC Post #299462
Whoops, looks like I messed up the indexing. I'll fix it up and upload a new WAD, but I can't do it for a few hours (work).
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 04:14:03 UTC Post #299465
ok jolly good
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 08:34:31 UTC Post #299475
Okay, this one should work.

I'll update the link in the compo brief soon. Let me know if I've buggered any other textures up, I'm out of touch with Goldsource.
Strider StriderTuned to a dead channel.
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 10:50:48 UTC Post #299480
For shame. :|

Also, may I suggest that this thread be stickied and the Competition 30 thread be unstickied? :P
UrbaNebula UrbaNebulaGoldSourcerer
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 12:00:23 UTC Post #299482
Good call. Done.
Daubster DaubsterVault Dweller
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 15:27:12 UTC Post #299488
Custom sounds? Yay? Nay?
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 16:03:49 UTC Post #299489
Hi I will attent to this contest...

But there are some things still unclear: What exactly do you classify as tool texutre.wads ?? Zhlt.wad I assume are there any more wads. which are classified as tool textures?

From the posts I've read on top it appears that decals will be forbidden is that correct if yes I have no problem with that. But I would like a clear confirmation.

Who exactly is the admin of this contest?

Are custom sounds allowed? There has been no answer for that question yet.

Please update this informations on the mainpage to that compo because others are also wondering about the same things. You should always make the descriptions as noob friendly as possible 'cause as you can see many are confused right now.

Can I also create my level lets say for Opposing Force for example instead of regular Half-Life1 or Half-Life2? Are there limitations or can we basically map for every gold source game or every source game that's officially created by valve?
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 16:42:05 UTC Post #299490
are there any more wads. which are classified as tool textures?
Any texture which does not affect the visuals of a map is a tool texture. Examples of these are AAATrigger, Skip, Hint, Null, Origin etc. ZHLT.wad has all the ones you'll need.
But I would like a clear confirmation.
Decals are not allowed.
Who exactly is the admin of this contest?
These guys.
Are custom sounds allowed?
Why would you want to waste your time on custom sounds if they're not even going to be judged? This is a texture pack competition.
can we basically map for every gold source game or every source game that's officially created by valve?
Yep.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 16:48:10 UTC Post #299491
Your goldsource { textures aren't properly constructed. They are still mostly blue... Mostly.
Skals SkalsGame / Level Designer
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 19:40:54 UTC Post #299492
Well its the whole experience of the map USING the textures. You all know how I like to go single player with my compo entries I wanna try to make a storyline. Custom sounds would greatley help me achieve this
Tetsu0 Tetsu0Original Cowboy
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 20:49:03 UTC Post #299499
I've already said this once before, but here it is again:

No custom content of any kind is allowed.

Also:

No decals or overlays
Using models and NPCs is allowed, but you cannot overuse them
Tool textures are the ones that aren't visible in-game. If you can see a texture when you play it, it must be from the texture pack.
You can use any official Valve game for your map.

Honestly, most of this is in the compo brief. Use your brains before asking questions!
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 20:55:48 UTC Post #299500
relating to the texture sizes, if you scale down a big texture to .50 that is exactly twice the normal size, will it be same perormance-wise to a texture that is the normal size at 1.00?

The more i think about this compo, the more i'm really getting stoked about mapping for it.. = )
Captain Terror Captain Terrorwhen a man loves a woman
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 21:03:19 UTC Post #299502
No, scaling down big textures causes worse performance then having a existing smaller texture at normal scale.
Crollo CrolloTrollo
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 21:11:36 UTC Post #299503
i scale my textures from 1.00 to 0.50 sometimes but we got much powerfull machines than in the day when HL1 was released so we can scale them a bit
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-27 22:15:02 UTC Post #299508
Don't worry about performance, the judges have decent machines so it's not really an issue. If you do actually resize textures, give the new WAD or VTF a unique name so you don't cause conflicts in my game folders.
Penguinboy PenguinboyHaha, I died again!
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-28 00:19:59 UTC Post #299512
The rules don't mention skyboxes and the pack doesn't have any; Am I correct in assuming we can use any vanilla skyboxes?
JeffMOD JeffMODCall 141.12
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-28 01:00:10 UTC Post #299513
You people ask such odd questions, Use some initiative!
Of course you can use any vanilla skyboxes.
Archie ArchieGoodbye Moonmen
Posted 7 years ago2011-09-28 01:24:01 UTC Post #299514
What about decals? Like a crack or something?
brendanmint brendanmintBrendan
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