SWAT Echo 12 needs help! [Source]

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 07:59:55 UTC Post #127576

I have posted about this before,, but,, meh, to long ago to post a replie that no one would notice, and, the game is a bit of a new idea now..

S.W.A.T. mod is a SOURCE mod.
Idea:
Replacing all the different combine soldiers/police models into Terrorist models and replacing 2 (maby just one) of the Citizen models with a SWAT model..
This will build the ground of the game..

If every thing works out as planned, this mod will have realistik damages (1 shot 1 kill in head or cheast, 2 shots in the leg or arm, and so on..)
wich will require a bit coding, I think?

Ok, here is the thing,, We need help!
List of what we need.

-Team leader's (this will include story writing)
-Concept artists (?)
-Mappers (Both MP and SP)
-Coders (Not much at all! Just a few remakes!
-Modelers (weapon only)
-Skinners (A few small remakes.. I would have done it my self if I knew how to handle photoshop.. >_< this job might also do skins for weapons)

More info:

Official website: http://roma55.mine.nu/julian/swat/ (beta website..

)
Moddb: http://mods.moddb.com/5655/

No media yet, but a very very early test beta is coming with only 1 new weapon (MP5) and 1 mission, just to get the idea rolling..

Please help us!
Want to join? Please replie here, mail me (madcow_admin@hotmail.com) or post it in the official website forums..

Thanks for reading!

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 08:09:36 UTC Post #127579

One crit, 2 shots in the leg wont kill somebody, only do them some pretty bad hurt, and possible elimination of the leg. And one os able to survive a shot through the head, though its not likely.

Weapon modeler sounds interesting, do i need to supply a Uvmap? And do i need to be able to animate/compile? Or do you have other persons for such a tedious task?

Any references of wich weapon you need, polygon limits etc.

Right now i still got some free time and everything im working on seems to be standing still.

pepper

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 08:15:35 UTC Post #127582

Kewl, i'll map, if that's ok.

What kind of maps are there ? houses, airport ?

and

We need help

who is 'we' ?

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 08:16:17 UTC Post #127583

You are right,, 2 shots in the leg doesn't kill some one,, but I bet it hurts.. ;P
I'll increase it to 4..

Yes! We need a weapon modeler!
I think it is ok, if you don't make animations..
Some one else can fix that..

So are you intrested?

The thing is, to make less coding, we just replace weapons,, and name the animations after the old ones,, and removes functions such as plasma balls or granade lunchers.. (coding part)

I'm just confusing you,,

We need you pepper!

Do you skin or should I put some one for that job too? (we do have a skinner)

I'll contact you through MSN or something so I can mail you about it!
Thanks.

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 08:18:38 UTC Post #127584

Great! Slasher, do you map for MP, or SP or both?

What kind of maps we need? Well, it is big difference,,
but mostly town enviroments..

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 08:21:42 UTC Post #127585

k, i can do both

Slasher_101

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 08:51:48 UTC Post #127586

Great! You got a skinnner!!

Il model weapons, get me refs and il get started right away!

I also want a poly limit!

pepper

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:03:07 UTC Post #127588

Slasher_101: Okay!

Pepper: 1. what's a ref? 2. poly limit? :S

Do you guys have moddb profiles so I can add you to the list of crew members?

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:09:16 UTC Post #127590

Ref = Reference picture(s) commenly refererd to by modelers as ref, ref pics or references pictures. These pictures can vary from photos to bleuprints used as a guideline when modeling a object.

Poly Limit= Polygon Limit. The maximum amount of polygons on a single model consisting of 1 or more objects. This is used by modelers to define the maximum amount of polygons, some programs have the ability to set-up a budget for the maximum amount, as a guideline for the modeler.

Moddb profile(s) = A profile on a website aimed at Mods(modifications, see modification) developed for games.

Il dig up my moddb profile.

pepper

SpaG

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:10:28 UTC Post #127591

too much of polys will be bad too less polys will make a gun boxy-ish.

SpaG

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:21:10 UTC Post #127592

Well, I don't know any thing about the polly limit,, so, on that fromt, you are on your own.

Have a pic of a P90: http://www.gurpsmaster.de/p90__.jpg
Different angle: http://www.defenseonline.com.cn/weapon/qxjp/cfq/cfq5903-1.JPG

I didn't find a pic from the back.. but, well, this weapon can be found if mods like CS / CSS.. You know wich one I mean?

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:26:04 UTC Post #127593

I already knew how it looked like, its also in far Cry, but i didnt know how you wanted it to look.

moddb profile: pepper

Il start doing some research of the weapon, when i have something il show you.

pepper

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:32:54 UTC Post #127594

OK, great!
I'll sign you up in the crew list..

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:34:48 UTC Post #127595

K,

Here are some links for you to read about the weapon, its important to know the weapon inside out before starting.

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg13-e.htm
http://remtek.com/arms/fn/p90/data/concept.htm
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/P90
http://www.fnherstal.com/html/Index.htm

Edit:
wich version do you want me to model?

Have a nice read, these links are also handy for your coder and sound editor.

pepper

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:49:52 UTC Post #127597

I bet we could download one of those free sounds of a real P90..

Just like we did with the mp5..
Wich model?
I thought P90 was the,, uh,, mark of the model..
So I don't know about that one, wich model did they use in CS?
I like that one..

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 09:54:06 UTC Post #127599

Alright, i know what you want, you already got hands ready for use?

What about this model?

http://arizonag.iserver.net/Products/FNMfng/P90/fn_tw_p90_r.jpg

pepper

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 10:17:34 UTC Post #127602

Yeah,, I like it..

Just what I am looking for!

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 11:25:56 UTC Post #127614

ok, i gotta ModDb account, Slasher_101

I take it ur MrMad ?

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 11:28:51 UTC Post #127615

Yes,, some maniac stole my nick, Madcow!

I didn't steal it,, I made it up when I was 7 years old.. ^^
So you have an account,, Ok, I'll add you!

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 11:45:26 UTC Post #127619

This is how I got my name: (when I was 7-8)

Well, you know all PC games used to come in box's with about 2-4 screenshots on the back ?

Well it was long ago, when I got Age of Empires 1. I couldn't think of a user-name, so I looked on the back of the box of AoE1 and in the multiplayer screenshot, the guy's name was Slasher. So I used that as a temporary name until I thought of a new one. Then I came attached to it and kept it, so when I started playing WarCraft III online, I thought someone would already have that name so i added added 101. And have been Slasher_101 ever since...

and that's my life story

Slasher_101

SpaG

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 12:04:33 UTC Post #127622

wipes his eyes wonderful.

SpaG

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 12:06:31 UTC Post #127623

roflmao !

Slasher_101

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 12:32:19 UTC Post #127632

Here is some progress, around 500 faces so far, some quad, some tri.
Roughly 2 hours work.

pepper

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 12:38:33 UTC Post #127635

cries

On topic: Slasher_101; there will be no mapping work in the coming week, I think.. Well yes, maby 1, I'll make a concept on tuesday, if I have any time.
That map will be for our test alpha, beta, demo, bah, what ever you say in this game language.. ^^
Any way, this demo will only contain 1 (maby 2! O.o) weapons and no new models.. It is only to test the code.

I don't think I'll make it public but all team members and beta testers will have access to it..
I think it will be ready in, 2 weeks!

Wich reminds me of,, We need a beta tester!

So if you would like to test our early versions of the mod please replie!

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 12:40:51 UTC Post #127637

I like!

Is that the FPS model or the thing that will be shown while it lies on the ground or,, you know..

Be cause if you don't want to make the "lie on the ground model" then we could always use the CSS one..

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 13:03:01 UTC Post #127640

btw, do you think you could make the back thingy shorter?
I don't know the name of it so I'll mark it..

No offence.. I really like the model!

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 13:26:54 UTC Post #127644

Its only the base that is done, that will be the buttstock that will rest in the shoulder, shame i dont have the real thing here, that always helps a lot by fiddiling it out!.

Infact, it will be a bit longer!

Here is a picture for comparison.

pepper

SpaG

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 13:42:05 UTC Post #127646

madcow ever heard of post editing?

SpaG

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:17:37 UTC Post #127648

Nice work, Pepper. What's that thing next to the gun in the real picture ?

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:18:50 UTC Post #127649

Looks like a mag..

spag: yes, but it only appares on your latest post and I didn't expect to write a third message,,

Pepper: I don't get it but I'm sure you know what you are doing. lol!

Btw, be cause I can't edit my old posts I'll say it now, I misspelled tuesday, I meaned thursday.

So,, I'll make some concept at thursday!

or friday.. >_<

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:19:15 UTC Post #127650

Its a 50 bullet amunition magazine.

pepper

SpaG

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:21:08 UTC Post #127652

you're really mad

SpaG

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:30:09 UTC Post #127653

OffT: Sure am,,

OnT: I just lost the password to my www.hl-tco.com account, so there will be no www.hl-tco.com/SWAT address..

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:36:28 UTC Post #127654

So, is there any way of recovering it? Or regaining a new one?

pepper

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 14:46:34 UTC Post #127661

Yes,, there is, but it will cost loads.. ^^
Man, I'm screwed..
We'll just have to use the omega address (Maby make a DNS? DNS have rarly support of sessions though, wich makes you able to login.

)

I'm not sure what to do, without the password I can't remove the site and make a new one with the same address (I think)
They can't mail the password be cause it is de crypted..
Stuck in the paste. :

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-14 16:40:32 UTC Post #127673

How can you lose such a thing! I'd always memorize em and write em down.

pepper

Archie

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 06:14:59 UTC Post #127710

why dont ya just - for the skinning/moddelling - use CS: S models?

ArchieGoodbye Moonmen

SpaG

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 06:18:58 UTC Post #127711

Maybe they don't weant them to look like ones

SpaG

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 06:56:45 UTC Post #127712

How can you lose such a thing! I'd always memorize em and write em down.

I'll be honest to you, I accenently deleted the account..

I thought it was a mail account only but they wouldn't tell me..
I made a new one though, named Madcow, but I never got the password.

why dont ya just - for the skinning/moddelling - use CS: S models?

Naaaah!
Maby we steal some sounds while we make our own..

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 09:15:01 UTC Post #127719

Make one from scratch ?

I think u should just change the CS: S model into a more SWATty model

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 09:19:54 UTC Post #127720

I disslike to steal stuff, and the mod will be of better qualety if we have our own guns/models..

(we might steal the CSS player models if we don't get a player modeler in time.)

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 10:02:03 UTC Post #127730

OK, well are we like, using HL2 as the 'base' of the mod ?
so we'd have all those weapons like crowbar, overwatch AR (the 1 with plasma balls) ?

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 10:43:46 UTC Post #127734

Oh, sorry, I didn't tell you.
We will use HL2 as "base" and rebuild it..
We will remove functions like Plasma ball and granade luncher..
The crow bar might be replaced with a knife (?) and if that happen we will make knife sounds..

All weapons will not be used in the mod..
Every time you finnish a map, you will be stripped of your weapons so you can make a non weapon scene in the next map..
You will be armed before you "move in" and if you try to move in before you pick up your gun someone will stop you.. blah blah blah..

That's a part of the idea..

We will not show any of the HL2 weapons.
You will as maximum have 3 weapons when you move in, that will be: knife backup gun(five seven I think.. ) and your primary weapon, (MP5, P90.. maby some other choices..)

Oh, and every new mission will be as a new chapter..
We might (MABY) remove the ingame save function.
So every time you finnish a mission, you'll lock up a new chapter.

Then, you will be able to browse betwen the missions.

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 11:08:32 UTC Post #127736

Yeah, just wondering, cos it would be cool to have a
door-breach-explosive-thing, like one of those trip mines you stick to the wall, only you use a remote to detonate when stuck to a door, and it blows the door open or something.

...you'll lock up a new chapter

do you mean unlock ?

just had to use that smilie! it's so perverse

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 11:18:55 UTC Post #127737

good idea,, I totaly forgot about it,, c2 breach!

I like! There for, I'll use that smiley too: :

Ok, that leavs out brushbased doors, we will have to use models.
We'll need one more team-mate who can make prop models then..

BTW, we just lost our SKINNER, he was to buzzy with school.
But I think I know some one else..
If not, if you know a skinner or someone that is good in photoshop,, tell me! Or tell him.

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Slasher_101

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 11:25:53 UTC Post #127739

skinner, as in pepper ?

Slasher_101

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 12:00:53 UTC Post #127742

Pepper is to modelling as Morgwin is to skinning.

This reminds me of that I have to learn psp too..
Maby I could skin?
Well, not yet though, I need to learn to use the different tools.
We need to find someone else, fast. =/

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

Daubster

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 12:47:54 UTC Post #127752

I can handle phsp... Guess i could skin for ya....

Oooh! Oooh! Pick me! Pick meeee!! I'd love to do concept art!!

Btw there is a p90 model in hl2Substance... :

DaubsterVault Dweller

Madcow

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 12:50:56 UTC Post #127753

*picks Daubster

Do you want to do both concept and make skins?
Or do you only want to do skinning/concept?

Do you got a moddb account?

MadcowSpy zappin my udder

pepper

Posted 18 years ago2005-08-15 12:53:02 UTC Post #127755

Madcow, make the side weapons work together with the main weapon, many handguns are developed as a sidearm for a certain weapon, that is why some of them use the 5.56 NATO rounds. The five seven is the sidearm of the p90, though im not sure.

There mainly the same to share the ammo.

pepper

SWAT Echo 12 needs help! [Source] Created 18 years ago2005-08-14 07:59:55 UTC by Madcow