You have 3 posts going at once.... All deal with the same thing.
I have played CS, I still play CS... although I admit that I haven't upgraded to v1.6, but after searching the web I can't seem to find the link between cs_matrix and the official 1.6 release. Is it part of the new upgrade, or is it a custom map?
If it is custom, then ask the person who built it how they did it.
The elevator tutorial was designed for Half-Life. It was never designied for inclusion in a CS map.
Try a CS website and post your question there...
Forum posts
You have 3 posts going at once.... All deal with the same thing.
I have played CS, I still play CS... although I admit that I haven't upgraded to v1.6, but after searching the web I can't seem to find the link between cs_matrix and the official 1.6 release. Is it part of the new upgrade, or is it a custom map?
If it is custom, then ask the person who built it how they did it.
The elevator tutorial was designed for Half-Life. It was never designied for inclusion in a CS map.
Try a CS website and post your question there...
I have played CS, I still play CS... although I admit that I haven't upgraded to v1.6, but after searching the web I can't seem to find the link between cs_matrix and the official 1.6 release. Is it part of the new upgrade, or is it a custom map?
If it is custom, then ask the person who built it how they did it.
The elevator tutorial was designed for Half-Life. It was never designied for inclusion in a CS map.
Try a CS website and post your question there...
loose, adj., looser,loosest, v.,loosed,loosing. -adj. 5. lax, as the bowels.
Maybe that's what he meant.
Maybe that's what he meant.
can you guess who I really am?Yes, your a unformed bowel movement
Funny...
I thought I was Andy.. not atom.
The Hammer file is included in the download at the bottom of the tutorial, but you would have known that if you read that far
Good luck incorperating it in a map, if you copy it from the rmf and paste it, then rotate it...
Well, anyway good luck.
And for those of you that haven't noticed...
LOOK DOWN..very bottom of the page....
See that Contact Us thing... well that's where you err, contact us.
I thought I was Andy.. not atom.
The Hammer file is included in the download at the bottom of the tutorial, but you would have known that if you read that far
Good luck incorperating it in a map, if you copy it from the rmf and paste it, then rotate it...
Well, anyway good luck.
And for those of you that haven't noticed...
LOOK DOWN..very bottom of the page....
See that Contact Us thing... well that's where you err, contact us.
Jobabob... point well made.
Yes I can see why people might want to do that, and it makes perfect sense now.
ZHLT defaultes to -Bounce 1 to catch those nasty "Too many lightfaces" errors... so I normally won't add a -bounce X when testing.
We also seem to have answered Bllwnkle's concerns, so a pat on the hind quarter all round.
Oh, and Bllwnkel.. you would be surprised how many of our members throw a map down and then post it in the completed maps section.
Shame most of them are seriously flawed
TEST, TEST and when your not sure TEST again. Works for me.
Yes I can see why people might want to do that, and it makes perfect sense now.
ZHLT defaultes to -Bounce 1 to catch those nasty "Too many lightfaces" errors... so I normally won't add a -bounce X when testing.
We also seem to have answered Bllwnkle's concerns, so a pat on the hind quarter all round.
Oh, and Bllwnkel.. you would be surprised how many of our members throw a map down and then post it in the completed maps section.
Shame most of them are seriously flawed
TEST, TEST and when your not sure TEST again. Works for me.
I wrote a few tutorials about Hints and Leaks, but couldn't find a balance between too simple and really difficult.
There are however a couple of tutorials already on the web, and I asked Eiger if I could post a link.... He agreed.
Try Hints for Hint brush stuff,
LEAKS in Hammer for Hammer LEAK finding or,
LEAKS in Half-Life for finding LEAKS in game.
I will add these to the Glossary today. So there is no need to add pointless spamming to this post, although I am sure that some immature loser will.
There are however a couple of tutorials already on the web, and I asked Eiger if I could post a link.... He agreed.
Try Hints for Hint brush stuff,
LEAKS in Hammer for Hammer LEAK finding or,
LEAKS in Half-Life for finding LEAKS in game.
I will add these to the Glossary today. So there is no need to add pointless spamming to this post, although I am sure that some immature loser will.
I don't read mandarin, but I would hazard a guess that it say's:
"Stupid tourist buy gift not knowing what say's"
"Stupid tourist buy gift not knowing what say's"
I don't get it?
I can see only one reason to reduce compiling times, and that is when I am testing entity setup and map layout.
Just switch VIS and RAD off when testing, and back on to do a full compile at the end of each section/hour/half day/day whatever......
So.... let me know why I need to reduce compiling times ??
I can see only one reason to reduce compiling times, and that is when I am testing entity setup and map layout.
Just switch VIS and RAD off when testing, and back on to do a full compile at the end of each section/hour/half day/day whatever......
So.... let me know why I need to reduce compiling times ??
Are there any Retail CS maps that have fuctioning door/floor elevator... or multistop elevators?
No.
Why....
Because CS is simple.
Once again, you are trying to add stuff into a multiplayer game that it wasn't designed to have. People have been trying to complicate CS for ages (And Failed), but most of it's apeal comes from it's simplicity.
That is why nearly all the elevators in CS are broken.........
No.
Why....
Because CS is simple.
Once again, you are trying to add stuff into a multiplayer game that it wasn't designed to have. People have been trying to complicate CS for ages (And Failed), but most of it's apeal comes from it's simplicity.
That is why nearly all the elevators in CS are broken.........
Try here:
ViRC
But they seem to have a new Beta...
I use V2orc5...
Most people seem to prefer Mirc... but I am a cheapskate.
ViRC
But they seem to have a new Beta...
I use V2orc5...
Most people seem to prefer Mirc... but I am a cheapskate.
Sorry, I use Virc... Really simple to set up.
Most of us use a combination of IrfanView and MSPaint.
If you paste into IrfanView and save the .jpg file, don't forget to open it again in MSPaint and save it. This will reduce the file size dramatically.
If you paste into IrfanView and save the .jpg file, don't forget to open it again in MSPaint and save it. This will reduce the file size dramatically.
I downloaded Shotgun Canyon and ran it to create an overview...
I found the problem.
You must be viewing the map in OpenGL.
The dev_overview 1 command will not work in Software Mode.
So, go to your HL start screen, click Configuration>Video>Video Mode and select OpenGL and 1024x768.
Done Done Done and run your map....
That should work.... If your Graphics card will not support this mode, then you won't be able to create overviews.... give your map to someone that can.
I found the problem.
You must be viewing the map in OpenGL.
The dev_overview 1 command will not work in Software Mode.
So, go to your HL start screen, click Configuration>Video>Video Mode and select OpenGL and 1024x768.
Done Done Done and run your map....
That should work.... If your Graphics card will not support this mode, then you won't be able to create overviews.... give your map to someone that can.
I answered this yesterday...
I e-mailed Tommy ages ago and asked if we could link his site....Serious case of DeJaVu when I read this post....
I didn't get a reply.
I am reluctant to link sites without the site owners permission.
So you will just have to book mark it, now that you know where it is.
Which kind of makes this statement a little rash?
this has nothing to do with the brushes... their shapes or anything like it...That is why I suggested that if they can't find the offending texture, then they should look at brushes, especially complex ones
Actually that tutorial was a lot easier than the multiple stops and buttons one that was at Verc
Neo, the main problem here is that you want an effect that the game engine was never designed to do. Do you remember any elevators in HL that had doors or buttons that moved with the elevator. I don't.
That tutorial was meant to show, that with a deep understanding of how things worked and a little testing, you can make almost anything happen.
I also did it to show the Spirit Devotee's that you don't need Spirit
Why change levels... Just have an elevator that closes it's doors, rumbles and opens the other doors...
Hlaf-Life is mainly about illusion. The trick is to make it seem that you have gone up... After all, who else is going to see the elevator move?
Neo, the main problem here is that you want an effect that the game engine was never designed to do. Do you remember any elevators in HL that had doors or buttons that moved with the elevator. I don't.
That tutorial was meant to show, that with a deep understanding of how things worked and a little testing, you can make almost anything happen.
I also did it to show the Spirit Devotee's that you don't need Spirit
Why change levels... Just have an elevator that closes it's doors, rumbles and opens the other doors...
Hlaf-Life is mainly about illusion. The trick is to make it seem that you have gone up... After all, who else is going to see the elevator move?
Does this have anything to do with CS 1.6 or Steam or something, because it used to work?
Are you guy's using Steam... or CS 1.6?
Are you guy's using Steam... or CS 1.6?
The problem here was the mixture of Texture FIFTIES_DR4D and ORIGIN as Anthony has quite rightly mentioned,
However...
You can texture brushes with a sky face to save the engine rendering them... (zhlt253 1.7 will do this, where earlier releases wouldn't) but I can't see why you would, it was an old trick, and it worked.
These day's you are better off using the NULL texture that is in the zhlt.wad in your ZHLT folder.
However...
You can texture brushes with a sky face to save the engine rendering them... (zhlt253 1.7 will do this, where earlier releases wouldn't) but I can't see why you would, it was an old trick, and it worked.
These day's you are better off using the NULL texture that is in the zhlt.wad in your ZHLT folder.
If you really want to be in the Hall of Shame, then post unfinished rubbish in the Completed Maps section of the Map Vault.
That seems to work for most members
That seems to work for most members
I e-mailed Tommy ages ago and asked if we could link his site....
I didn't get a reply.
I am reluctant to link sites without the site owners permission.
So you will just have to book mark it, now that you know where it is.
I didn't get a reply.
I am reluctant to link sites without the site owners permission.
So you will just have to book mark it, now that you know where it is.
Everyone is on the right track....Great stuff.
CSG, BSP, VIS, RAD... that is the compile sequence.
If the .csg compile has a problem, it won't step to the next phase of the compile which is BSP. The .bsp file won't be created, and that is what Half-Life needs to run.
Anthony answered correctly, and now you have managed to get the .bsp placed in the right directory, Post the compile log, so we can see what's going on.
Don't forget to wear tin foil on your head at night, that way Valve can't steal your thoughts...
CSG, BSP, VIS, RAD... that is the compile sequence.
If the .csg compile has a problem, it won't step to the next phase of the compile which is BSP. The .bsp file won't be created, and that is what Half-Life needs to run.
Anthony answered correctly, and now you have managed to get the .bsp placed in the right directory, Post the compile log, so we can see what's going on.
Don't forget to wear tin foil on your head at night, that way Valve can't steal your thoughts...
Very good advice Outlaw,
But they can be slippery little decals.
You can also go to the Tool bar>Map>Entity report, find the info_decal and delete it. If you click GoTo, it should highlight it in the 2D and 3D views...
Easier to delete that way.
But they can be slippery little decals.
You can also go to the Tool bar>Map>Entity report, find the info_decal and delete it. If you click GoTo, it should highlight it in the 2D and 3D views...
Easier to delete that way.
Step by Step, to summarise all the above.
Make Door Brush. DO NOT turn it into an entity.
Make Origin Brush. (Axle)
Place Origin Brush where you want it to be, but remember that the door will rotate around the center of the Origin Brush.
Select the Origin Brush and the door (Both Highlighted), and hit CTRL+T.
A property box appears, Select "Func_door_rotating" and assign it's properties.
Test it.
If it doesn't move the way you want it to, then click IG (Ignore group) and select the Origin Brush only and move it. Or change the func_door_rotating properties.
Test it.
When they say group, they actually mean Tie both brushes to an entity.
Make Door Brush. DO NOT turn it into an entity.
Make Origin Brush. (Axle)
Place Origin Brush where you want it to be, but remember that the door will rotate around the center of the Origin Brush.
Select the Origin Brush and the door (Both Highlighted), and hit CTRL+T.
A property box appears, Select "Func_door_rotating" and assign it's properties.
Test it.
If it doesn't move the way you want it to, then click IG (Ignore group) and select the Origin Brush only and move it. Or change the func_door_rotating properties.
Test it.
When they say group, they actually mean Tie both brushes to an entity.
Worldcraft dude and BrattyLord,
I don't think that Kol was taking out his frustration on you personally. It is just that this question is asked often.
There is a brilliant search function at the top of the page.
Type in r_speeds and select either Forums, Tutorials or Glossary and you will be provided with a wealth of information. 40 Forum Topics, 1 tutorial and a Glossary entry.
You might want to do this next time something comes up that you don't understand, it may well save you from the wrath of Kol.
I don't think that Kol was taking out his frustration on you personally. It is just that this question is asked often.
There is a brilliant search function at the top of the page.
Type in r_speeds and select either Forums, Tutorials or Glossary and you will be provided with a wealth of information. 40 Forum Topics, 1 tutorial and a Glossary entry.
You might want to do this next time something comes up that you don't understand, it may well save you from the wrath of Kol.
Try adding a v
Bring up the console again and enter dev_overview 1 then close the consoleDoes that work, and if not, then I might need to update the tutorial to make it clearer. Let me know if you have any other problems.
Might be that the Maximum visible distance of your map is 4096, and your line of site inside the map is greater?
Check out WyldThing's post.
Check out WyldThing's post.
F5....
Check out Screen Shots
Check out Screen Shots
Ummm, What is a Princess Peach?
Well I think they will be:
Oh, sorry... you said you read Tommy's thoughts on this problem and so you must have already done that....
That being the case, and there are no invalid or perpendicular textures ... then look at all your complex or VM'd brushes.
in the less than 0.05 or greater than 15 rangeSince you said the error was 8800/0. Tommy say's if it has a 0 in the error, to try the "Check for Problems" or ALT+P and see if there was a texture perpendicular to face error.
Oh, sorry... you said you read Tommy's thoughts on this problem and so you must have already done that....
That being the case, and there are no invalid or perpendicular textures ... then look at all your complex or VM'd brushes.
Check out Rain for more information on Conveyors. Read the bit at the bottom if you are stuck with the texture direction.
Having read all the responses at Collective, I am surprised that Chris allowed the post, or that Collective endorses the product. The mind boggles.
Learning is testing. Testing is building.
Most of the forum topics could have been solved if the poster tried things out, rather than going for the easy option of getting someone else to do it.
Sure, sometimes you get to a point where nothing works, but only about 10% of the forum topics are at that stage.
Most of the common problems in society today can be directly linked to peoples inability to try stuff out, read the manual and do it themselves.
And before you all launch into a heated debate about working Smarter, not Harder....
Mapping isn't about producing quality stuff that has been done before. It is about the JOY you first felt when you created a simple room with a metal texture and ran around Banging your Crowbar on it.
I am learning to build maps and sometimes it would be nice to see how it was put together.As this seems to be a popular theme for those who see the benifit of using a decompiler, let me adjust your attitude.
Learning is testing. Testing is building.
Most of the forum topics could have been solved if the poster tried things out, rather than going for the easy option of getting someone else to do it.
Sure, sometimes you get to a point where nothing works, but only about 10% of the forum topics are at that stage.
Most of the common problems in society today can be directly linked to peoples inability to try stuff out, read the manual and do it themselves.
And before you all launch into a heated debate about working Smarter, not Harder....
Mapping isn't about producing quality stuff that has been done before. It is about the JOY you first felt when you created a simple room with a metal texture and ran around Banging your Crowbar on it.
Caleb
Yes there is....
But as jobabob clearly points out.... It is a tool that does not have acceptance in the community. If you want to use it then you will have to find it.
End of Post........ I will delete the whole post and any related ones if this topic continues.
Yes there is....
But as jobabob clearly points out.... It is a tool that does not have acceptance in the community. If you want to use it then you will have to find it.
End of Post........ I will delete the whole post and any related ones if this topic continues.
Since everyone likes saying the same thing a different way 5 or 6 times, I thought I would add that there is a little button at the top of the tool bar in Hammer 3.4 that says "Help".
Clicking on this can bring wonderful results.
Clicking on this can bring wonderful results.
There might be a reason you don't see elevators "n" stuff in CS.. Ever considered that?
Nah.. you don't, that's why adding Bubbles seems to make sense
I suggest you have a look at Tommy14 Error Resource page and BOOKMARK it.
All the known errors for Hammer are listed there.
Missing [ in texturedef is one of the errors listed, actually it is also listed in zhlt 253 readme, but Tommy, out of the kindness of his heart, replicated it because not everyone has access to the original file.
All the known errors for Hammer are listed there.
Missing [ in texturedef is one of the errors listed, actually it is also listed in zhlt 253 readme, but Tommy, out of the kindness of his heart, replicated it because not everyone has access to the original file.
Good luck with the Mod.
Update your page early and often to keep people interested.
And yeah, use paragraphs.
I expect to be given a Preview and Press release prior to the Official Public launch, so we can Pimp it here at TWHL.
Update your page early and often to keep people interested.
And yeah, use paragraphs.
I expect to be given a Preview and Press release prior to the Official Public launch, so we can Pimp it here at TWHL.
Have a look at Tommy14 for all error related problems and BOOKMARK the page.
The link is direct to the Mod_Num reference, and it should give you an idea of what is wrong.
The link is direct to the Mod_Num reference, and it should give you an idea of what is wrong.
Also, if there is no info_player_start but you do have teleporters or Level changes, the map will try to spawn you at the center of the grid where those red,blue and yellow lines are.... If you don't have any map there you will fall into the void... and die.
The latest TFC .fgd (f1.5 Rev10 and don't forget to whisper my name in awe when you read the credits!!) is available at TFMapped although it is always worth checking Collective, if you can manage to navagate around it.
Yeah,
Everyone is right, the water texture is only rendered on the visible external faces so when your in water you can't see it. Either drop the top down a few units or add light and bubbles to make it look like water
Everyone is right, the water texture is only rendered on the visible external faces so when your in water you can't see it. Either drop the top down a few units or add light and bubbles to make it look like water
Or you can have a look at Camera Examples in the Map Vault
In Summary of all the above:
Hammer uses a pointfile generated when the map is compiled. You can view that point file in Hammer, but it is normally a mass of red lines.
The point file can also be viewed in game, by using the command pointfile. That should give you a dotted line that goes crazy around your map. But it should also go through a brush in your map, and that is where the LEAK could be.
But this actually sounds like an entity outside the map?
The LEAK error from your compile log will tell you the start point of the point file. And it should also give you an Entity and coordinates.
Have a look at that Entity in Hammer and make sure it is within your map.
ShoeBox:
A map is what is inside the ShoeBox.
Everything outside is called the Void.
Entities must not be placed in the Void.
The outside of your shoebox must be sealed.
You should not be able to see out of the shoebox from anywhere inside the shoebox........... And your shoebox must be located within the gridlines in the Hammer 2D views.
Simple innit?
Hammer uses a pointfile generated when the map is compiled. You can view that point file in Hammer, but it is normally a mass of red lines.
The point file can also be viewed in game, by using the command pointfile. That should give you a dotted line that goes crazy around your map. But it should also go through a brush in your map, and that is where the LEAK could be.
But this actually sounds like an entity outside the map?
The LEAK error from your compile log will tell you the start point of the point file. And it should also give you an Entity and coordinates.
Have a look at that Entity in Hammer and make sure it is within your map.
ShoeBox:
A map is what is inside the ShoeBox.
Everything outside is called the Void.
Entities must not be placed in the Void.
The outside of your shoebox must be sealed.
You should not be able to see out of the shoebox from anywhere inside the shoebox........... And your shoebox must be located within the gridlines in the Hammer 2D views.
Simple innit?
Chippy,
Bit difficult to read all the way to the end of your post when your post is incorrect form the start.
Your description of Dynamic lights is common, but flawed.
You failed to mention the original reason they were called Dynamic lights in the first place. Dynamic lights have evolved from Named or Switchable lights, but as far back as Quake, Dynamic meant Light emission from a known or potential light source. That includes stuff like Muzzel flash, grenade bursts and explosions and texture lights. Not just Named, or property enhanced lights. Dynamic lights are an important part of Software rendering. Something most people don't bother with, but it doesn't mean it's not important.
It has been proven time and time again that the 4 Named, or property enhanced lights in the same engine visible area will NOT always produce this error. This is just a guide to help track down the reason for the error and give people a starting point to solve it.
Large outdoor maps suffer from this problem, but the original post actually detailed coordinates for the area affected. So the answer is to go there and see why the identified brush has been singled out for a problem.
Which all seems irrelevant now, because leong2 removed the light emmiting textures and that solved the problem. However, the problem still exists as there is a brush in the map that is very unhappy about being subjected to multiple light mapping.
Bit difficult to read all the way to the end of your post when your post is incorrect form the start.
Your description of Dynamic lights is common, but flawed.
You failed to mention the original reason they were called Dynamic lights in the first place. Dynamic lights have evolved from Named or Switchable lights, but as far back as Quake, Dynamic meant Light emission from a known or potential light source. That includes stuff like Muzzel flash, grenade bursts and explosions and texture lights. Not just Named, or property enhanced lights. Dynamic lights are an important part of Software rendering. Something most people don't bother with, but it doesn't mean it's not important.
It has been proven time and time again that the 4 Named, or property enhanced lights in the same engine visible area will NOT always produce this error. This is just a guide to help track down the reason for the error and give people a starting point to solve it.
Large outdoor maps suffer from this problem, but the original post actually detailed coordinates for the area affected. So the answer is to go there and see why the identified brush has been singled out for a problem.
Which all seems irrelevant now, because leong2 removed the light emmiting textures and that solved the problem. However, the problem still exists as there is a brush in the map that is very unhappy about being subjected to multiple light mapping.
Oh yeah,
POKE 646 had the advantage of totally reworked titles.txt and strings list, actually I think there wasn't a shred of the original HL in any of the stuff they did.
And the New Year means just that. Sometime Next Year
POKE 646 had the advantage of totally reworked titles.txt and strings list, actually I think there wasn't a shred of the original HL in any of the stuff they did.
And the New Year means just that. Sometime Next Year
The delay in the release is due to pretty much the same reason that the last compo results were delayed.
I can't finish it without all the material, and I am waiting on a few more pieces of the puzzle.
So to save any further heartache, I won't let you know when it might be released. Same goes for compo results, tutorials in writing, and anything else that we collectively give a deadline. That will save me working late to meet them and makes me very happy.
Thank you for your comment pepper and high_voltage, you just gave me the excuse I needed and made my day.
I can't finish it without all the material, and I am waiting on a few more pieces of the puzzle.
So to save any further heartache, I won't let you know when it might be released. Same goes for compo results, tutorials in writing, and anything else that we collectively give a deadline. That will save me working late to meet them and makes me very happy.
Thank you for your comment pepper and high_voltage, you just gave me the excuse I needed and made my day.
Love it....
Now you all have somewhere to divert your energy to, instead of taking the piss out of each others avatars.
Now you all have somewhere to divert your energy to, instead of taking the piss out of each others avatars.
I found them...
Right, in summary....
To get a message no longer than 127 characters use a game_text.
To get a really good looking message, with pictures use a camera.
If you want to get a scrolling message of more than 127 characters use a trigger_relay between game texts, or
If you want it to be the same as a Chapter Title style, then use an env_message and alter the titles.txt.
Don't forget that the titles.txt will have to be part of your distribution files.
I hope you didn't alter the Half-Life titles.txt..... Or if you did, you backed it up first.
Loque's tutorial will be out in the New Year, just some fine tuning to be done.
To get a message no longer than 127 characters use a game_text.
To get a really good looking message, with pictures use a camera.
If you want to get a scrolling message of more than 127 characters use a trigger_relay between game texts, or
If you want it to be the same as a Chapter Title style, then use an env_message and alter the titles.txt.
Don't forget that the titles.txt will have to be part of your distribution files.
I hope you didn't alter the Half-Life titles.txt..... Or if you did, you backed it up first.
Loque's tutorial will be out in the New Year, just some fine tuning to be done.