Commented 18 years ago2005-10-30 22:00:51 UTC
in vault item: de_stack_v2Comment #9690
A map that has lots of nice elements, and many things I don't agree with
+Nice detail in places +Interesting original layout -Too many props strewn in some areas and others left barren -ropes? do they have a purpose--I tried jumping too them for a while? I think it would be cool if the ct's started atop the roof and took the ropes down. -random glass thingies everywhere--yuk! -weird secret passages with arrows that don't make sense
It's obvious that you have mapping skills and put some time into this, but I think it needs some rethinking.
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-30 20:10:14 UTC
in vault item: XavesComment #9681
yeah... i agree with you. im annoyed now as I can see now that my other entry was pointless. it was a teleporter, and obviously, at that stage in my mapping career, even my teleport (a crap and old idea anyway) would be beaten by anybody elese teleporter! IT SUCKED!!! maybe if i spent all my time on it I may have got a medal... hind sight ehh... a wonderful thing!
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-30 19:14:26 UTC
in vault item: dm_inboundComment #9680
I must say, this map definitely looks detailed and has a nice ambience. The short fog distance is probably necessary for it to run well, but it distracted somewhat, especially because it doesn't work well with the 3D skybox. Hard to fix problem, I guess?
You didn't state for what player count the map is intended but it looks like quite some players could fit in. I think it's too large for 8 players but with the current fps too many players might be a bit of a problem. Playtesting should tell...
I noticed a lot of items are somewhat hidden or placed next to explosives or are otherwise placed in hard-to-get area's. Maybe that works well, but personally I think with the already large nature of the map it's not a real good idea. Armor and a weapon are best quickly accessible from the spawn point so you aren't chanceless against an opponent who's running around for a longer time and stocked up on weaponry already. So, I like items and weapons to be somewhat easier to get. The more heavy weapons or a real fat item storage room are best made hard to access so their power doesn't come at no cost, but the more basic stuff should be available sooner and easier.
As for visuals, I already said I like the details and especially the sounds and all. They're nice touches, like the man screaming for help. Some textures weren't chosen that well though, like some walls had a generic metal texture that's probably meant as a floor texture. The outside area's looked great though. The level is also easy to learn despite it's size and I think you've used the vertical axis great. One note about that though: a player that's on a higher place has an advantage over lower players. He doesn't need cover but just has to step back somewhat to be safe. The lower player will have less use of cover because of the height, too. I noticed you placed some AR grenades on the roof. I think that's outbalancing things somewhat: the lower player could use some grenades to counter the height difference rather than the other way around.
All in all, overall it looked great and the ambience was well-done, but the item placement and size could be done better. Have you playtested this map with others throughout the construction period, bytheway?
Cool!! I thought that nobody actually maps for gunman. Hmmm...do you use the fgd file that comes with gunman(it's for worldcraft 2.1) or that you downloaded/created a better one? I just can't stand that I can't set the direction the monster/player will look at.
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-30 10:05:29 UTC
in vault item: XavesComment #9672
thats what I was thinking at first, but realised I didn't have enough time. I thought of a living world sort of swallowing you, which I think is represented well when falling down, although not so much going along. thats for that idea captain p though, that would definately make the 'living thing' look more realistic!
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-30 09:22:56 UTC
in vault item: XavesComment #9671
Actually, it reminded me of an old idea I had years back, which in turn I've seen as a level theme in some games: the inner organs of a creature. It's pulsating, it feels alive and just like certain organs it's a transport tube. I would've played with func_trains to achieve such an effect though as I think clever shaping and use of these would give about the same effect but be much less prone to getting-stuck problems. Another thing I would've done was modelling parts of the map and animating them to achieve a pulsating and alive effect.
Maybe that's an idea if you're ever going to use this again?
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-30 01:46:19 UTC
in vault item: cs_napalComment #9668
I dont know what you mean...rowleybob. but if you mean take too long time when you download my map close all your internet explorer browser when you download my map. Too much useing wads...yeah. I too leasy to submit this map again...(much useing time almost 1 hour)
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-29 17:17:10 UTC
in vault item: MappyComment #9664
Thanks. The radios were just simple textured brushes (actually one that was clipped for multiple texturing,) and the middle brush was a func_button that turned an ambient_generic on and off. The little robots were an experiment with func_trains.
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-29 17:10:30 UTC
in vault item: XavesComment #9663
cheers all. if got exams in 2 weeks, but after that, I will definately start something. what inspired me? not sure. i think I was messing around with rotating objects, changed the start delay, and realised that it carries you. it is practically impossible to go backwards!
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-29 15:39:03 UTC
in vault item: XavesComment #9662
@Hunter: The screenie does not do this map justice, as is many times the case with maps. This you should know by now.
The getting stuck problem is obvious, buy when you 'fall' through the right way, it creates an exquisite, original effect, that I can safely say blew me away.
Sort of like waves and gears. I like how you can ride atop the wave and fall throught too.
@Alex B: Please tell us what inspired you to create this effect!
The rest of the map was quite well done, if not a little short. I'm giving this one *** for sheer origianlity.
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-29 15:15:57 UTC
in vault item: SancefarComment #9660
Wow, I'm impressed--as always--, and you seem to be refining your technique at building this map, which is clearly evident for anyone trying this one out.
Texturing is impeccable albeit with a quite limited pallete--true rimrook style. What sets this one apart imo is how crispy clear and pretty they all looked, especially the main brick, which was my favourite! Whilst still in the realm of texturing, I must also say your sky fit really nice on this one and I thought it was most well done.
Architecture is always good and original for your maps, but for this one in paticular, I really loved the multipe, interweaving starways. They were simply beautiful, my second favourite part of the map.
First goes to the creative relief of the level, I think someone else described it as 'escheresque', which is a great analogy. I also like that you cant see the two top most towers until your just about up there.
Cool, different shapes throughout also--windows, hatchways, etc.
I'm quite the noob at lighting, but looked spot on to me.
loved the 'lag ahead' signs too--outstanding! *****
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-29 15:05:40 UTC
in vault item: XavesComment #9658
Awesome idea, really intuitive -although player does get stuck an awful lot in places. Especially when you drop down to the next level . Elon I think he was trying to focus emphasis on the wave, not so much every thing else around the player. As he States [" maybe incoperate into a mini-mod set in Xen, something rarely seen. "] I say go for it, it's somthing different!!!!!!!
Commented 18 years ago2005-10-29 09:24:23 UTC
in vault item: TrainComment #9655
Ok well i just tryed it and yes its alright, and i know its unfinished.
I think you need some more detail into the map like hand rails on the train , and when the train goes up it just floats and id put the place where you get off the train closer to it to make it look more realistic.
+Nice detail in places
+Interesting original layout
-Too many props strewn in some areas and others left barren
-ropes? do they have a purpose--I tried jumping too them for a while? I think it would be cool if the ct's started atop the roof and took the ropes down.
-random glass thingies everywhere--yuk!
-weird secret passages with arrows that don't make sense
It's obvious that you have mapping skills and put some time into this, but I think it needs some rethinking.
+Interesting layout.
+Neat construction in places.
The rest didn't leave an impression on me, which is to say this definitely needs more work, and doesn't belong in the 'completed' section imo.
4 stars Hunter? In what universe?
Makes me almost want to install the mod too, but I'm far too lazy
You didn't state for what player count the map is intended but it looks like quite some players could fit in. I think it's too large for 8 players but with the current fps too many players might be a bit of a problem. Playtesting should tell...
I noticed a lot of items are somewhat hidden or placed next to explosives or are otherwise placed in hard-to-get area's. Maybe that works well, but personally I think with the already large nature of the map it's not a real good idea. Armor and a weapon are best quickly accessible from the spawn point so you aren't chanceless against an opponent who's running around for a longer time and stocked up on weaponry already.
So, I like items and weapons to be somewhat easier to get. The more heavy weapons or a real fat item storage room are best made hard to access so their power doesn't come at no cost, but the more basic stuff should be available sooner and easier.
As for visuals, I already said I like the details and especially the sounds and all. They're nice touches, like the man screaming for help. Some textures weren't chosen that well though, like some walls had a generic metal texture that's probably meant as a floor texture. The outside area's looked great though.
The level is also easy to learn despite it's size and I think you've used the vertical axis great. One note about that though: a player that's on a higher place has an advantage over lower players. He doesn't need cover but just has to step back somewhat to be safe. The lower player will have less use of cover because of the height, too. I noticed you placed some AR grenades on the roof. I think that's outbalancing things somewhat: the lower player could use some grenades to counter the height difference rather than the other way around.
All in all, overall it looked great and the ambience was well-done, but the item placement and size could be done better.
Have you playtested this map with others throughout the construction period, bytheway?
Another thing I would've done was modelling parts of the map and animating them to achieve a pulsating and alive effect.
Maybe that's an idea if you're ever going to use this again?
The getting stuck problem is obvious, buy when you 'fall' through the right way, it creates an exquisite, original effect, that I can safely say blew me away.
Sort of like waves and gears. I like how you can ride atop the wave and fall throught too.
@Alex B: Please tell us what inspired you to create this effect!
The rest of the map was quite well done, if not a little short. I'm giving this one *** for sheer origianlity.
Nice Job!
That said, this map has nice architecture/texturing/lighting throughout.
Little big for my taste too, I would never play a map like this.
You obviously have some skill, why not building something a little smaller, and a little less cloney
***
Texturing is impeccable albeit with a quite limited pallete--true rimrook style. What sets this one apart imo is how crispy clear and pretty they all looked, especially the main brick, which was my favourite! Whilst still in the realm of texturing, I must also say your sky fit really nice on this one and I thought it was most well done.
Architecture is always good and original for your maps, but for this one in paticular, I really loved the multipe, interweaving starways. They were simply beautiful, my second favourite part of the map.
First goes to the creative relief of the level, I think someone else described it as 'escheresque', which is a great analogy. I also like that you cant see the two top most towers until your just about up there.
Cool, different shapes throughout also--windows, hatchways, etc.
I'm quite the noob at lighting, but looked spot on to me.
loved the 'lag ahead' signs too--outstanding!
*****
really intuitive -although player does get stuck an awful lot in places. Especially when you drop down to the next level .
Elon I think he was trying to focus emphasis on the wave, not so much every thing else around the player. As he States [" maybe incoperate into a mini-mod set in Xen, something rarely seen. "]
I say go for it, it's somthing different!!!!!!!
I need a mod with "func_detail" property for HL1. That's all i need and i would be set for life. Is it possible to code that for HL1?
I think you need some more detail into the map like hand rails on the train , and when the train goes up it just floats and id put the place where you get off the train closer to it to make it look more realistic.
if you map for HL2, they wont work on my PC because they'll be more detailed than actual HL2 which lags enough already.
did that make sense?
I like it
Arcututure is impressive!
Keep up the good work. Later I'll do a full review...
I busy now! (gmod 9)
-DrMapper
i tried to include it, but its too big... oh well. i just cut out the textures in the end.
I swear!!!! and triple post happened by accident i refreshed page and reposted oops did you get the pm?
a neat effect